> I think unlimited upload access should be simply another one of those sets > of permissions that some people have and others don't. Those who need > that access to do their work can receive it after appropriate vetting of > their ability to use that access appropriately, just as someone would > volunteer to join ftp-master, or DSA, or keyring-maint, or the Lintian > maintenance team and would, after appropriate vetting, be given additional > privileges to do that work. Having or not having additional access should > not change the basic DD status.
I, using my DAM hat, don't care if this gets a name. It got one as it seemed good at the time of writing, but whatever its named (or not) is REALLY just a very tiny little bit of this thing and about as important as the fact if someone had rice or meat for breakfast. The more important part is getting the project to acknowledge the concept of a set of members/developers/whateveryounameit not having upload rights by default and letting DAM/FD/theusualpeople just manage that. The important part is opening our membership to people who deserve it, but who (most likely) never ever will maintain a package and as such currently have a hard time joiningm as we do want to see new people have at least a basic set of knowledge packaging requires (be that using a set of questions or by evaluating what they have in the archive, the procedure there is up to the AM). And the latter part should change, giving people who want to an early exit - consequently a little less ability later on, but one they dont need/want then. I, using my FTPMaster hat, do care a lot that we do not get $whateveritsname with upload rights that never ever had to show at least the basic understanding of packaging work. Looking at all the errors existing Developers do, even longstanding ones, having something like T&S drop away entirely will be near death. Whoever thinks "it cant be that bad" should do a month of release team, qa or ftpteam work. You will think different. -- bye, Joerg Naturally; worms that don't know what they are doing end up as fish bait, instead of getting invited into weird math experiments. -- Lars Wirzenius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87fwxbquvo....@gkar.ganneff.de