On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 05:41:31PM -0500, Jeff Albro wrote: > If you take a look at the server logs, you can see where people went from > the main page. (grep for home page as referring link)
How does this work? I don't get it. Maybe it's just that www.d.o Apache logs don't track referrers... > You can tell how people are using it now. I suspect you won't find people > clicking on the "Debian International" link because it is not clear what > it means. That's not necessarily true -- the "international" users, read: non-native English speakers, see things like that on the web. It usually leads them to a page that describes something that's interesting to them. And TBH I can't think of a better term to replace this... > Do more people read the DWN than the event centered news releases? % zgrep News/weekly/current/issue www.debian.org-access.log{,.0,.?.gz} | wc -l 4449 % zgrep News/weekly/2001 www.debian.org-access.log{,.0,.?.gz} | wc -l 17585 % zgrep News/2001 www.debian.org-access.log{,.0,.?.gz} | wc -l 19056 That's since Dec 4th. Then again, this isn't such a useful statistic -- the weekly news are posted regularly and it's logical to expect they'd have more readers. The other news items are usually boring, too. ;) > Are more than 5% of people going to the mirrors? Are they worth having? % zgrep redirect.pl access.log access.log.0 access.log.?.gz | wc -l 7513 That's also since Dec 4th. Bear in mind that once you change to the mirror you don't invoke the script anymore (because the in-site links are meant to stay within the site), so this only counts those people who switch from one mirror to another. > Instead of a link to the security mailing list, let people input their > e-mail address. That would be pushing it... like SatireWire.com says, "Gertrude Stein died in 1946, so you should join our MAILING LIST". :) > I.E. Should the user find a link to /docs/books if they follow the bigger > link to /docs? Right now they don't. Uh, sure they do... <p>There are also several user-oriented manuals written for Debian GNU/Linux, available as <a href="books">printed books</a>. Of special note is <a href="http://www.newriders.com/debian/html/noframes/node1.html">Debian GNU/Linux: Guide to Installation and Usage</a>. > Should different parts of the website look different? Clearly all parts > of Debian need to look like they are part of Debian, but there could be > subtle clues. (A CD behind the swirl on cds.debian.org, etc) Makes sense... > * A fact based analysis of where we are now. Too depressing ;) > * A set of design guidelines (maybe a small web policy manual?) The primary guideline so far seems to be "What others don't protest to" :) Heck, now that I think about it, that's one of the better guidelines on the web today. If only some other webmasters followed it... > * Prototype sites put up for review (with a specific comment period as > many volunteers have different schedules, and we should make sure people > get a fair chance to air their concerns.) > > * A final decision process (voting, benevolent dictator, etc..) I know you didn't like me redoing /doc/ without a nice process, but let's face it, if I hadn't done it, we would have been stuck with that old page for God knows how much longer... -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.