Agree as well!  SPEWS caused more trouble than it did good.

Duane


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> Scott,
> 
> As well it should say that! Anyone that would do anything other than
> ignore the spews db is out of their minds.
> 
> In this case they have been irresponsible. The domain that "supposedly"
> sent spam is not and has never been hosted here.
> 
> Furthermore, the inability to be removed and statements like this ( Q11
> of their FAQ):
> 
> Q11: I'm a spammer and I'm listed in SPEWS, I want out! Will you do it?
> 
> A11: Sorry, SPEWS is a list of known spammers, spamming operations and
> spam supporters, if you fit the criteria there's a good chance you will
> be listed and stay listed. If you are a spammer, may we suggest you get
> a real job?  
> 
> Spews is a joke and should be taken offline.
> 
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Phillip B. Holmes
> Media Resolutions Inc.
> Macromedia Alliance Partner
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:09 PM
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> 
> 
> 
> >Anyone else out there ever have an issue with spews.org irresponsibly 
> >reporting servers?
> 
> No.
> 
> But, they will intentionally blacklist IPs that are "near" a spammer.
> 
> >They have blacklisted one of my boxes and for a domain we do not even 
> >host. There is not a way to get off their list and their site is quite 
> >flippant.
> >
> >I can't imagine anyone who could take spews.org seriously.
> >
> >Advice? Comments?
> 
> If you check, you'll see that they didn't blacklist the IP of your 
> mailserver.  Instead, there is a "nearby" spammer that they have 
> blacklisted, and they have included your IP in their range.  Their
> thought 
> is that you are going to complain to your ISP, who will terminate the 
> spammer.  But it just doesn't work that way in reality.
> 
> This is why we have "Warning: Lists a number of legitimate mailservers
> that 
> happen to have the same Class C address space as spammers." in our 
> description at http://www.declude.com/junkmail/support/ip4r.htm .
> 
> Anyone who blocks E-mail based on Spews is choosing to block legitimate
> E-mail.
>                                  -Scott
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