MessageAndy ,

>The key is to use Challenge/Response systems ONLY if the sender is
questionable, e.g., is an open relay, has no Reverse DNS, has a bogus
>HELO, etc.
What about MAILFROM test
Do you delete mail failing the MAILFROM test ,

As i understood , people using Challenge/Response systems will never be able
to get message failing this test.

Is there anyone who receive legitime mail failing this test.

I still found that Challenge/Response systems will make the mail traffic
grow .And prevent some legitime mail coming in.

Rifat



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Andy Schmidt
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Challenge Response- No way to win


The key is to use Challenge/Response systems ONLY if the sender is
questionable, e.g., is an open relay, has no Reverse DNS, has a bogus HELO,
etc.

This way, the sending party has the option to properly set up a COMPLIANT
mail server and they will NOT have to deal with responding to any
challenges.  If they want to conduct eCommerce, let's get it right. If they
don't, then they deserve that their emails are treated as "questionable" and
may never get delivered.


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

H&M Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:    +1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 04:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Challenge Response- No way to win


Hi;

Look at the new challenge response we just received.  There is no way to fix
this problem.

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*** Attention! ***
In order to complete delivery of your email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] please
reply on this message by typing the following passcode on the first line.
Please reply within 4 day(s) to avoid automatic deletion of your original
email. Keep this text in your reply.
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MailSword_Code:
6482
------ MailSword 1.20 Beta ------
MailSword_Verify: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MailSword_Original_Message_Id: 348618345
MailSword_Local_Message_Id: ###<91FD7332>###
=======================
Now there is a code that you have to type before your message is delivered.
eCommerce is dead!
Regards,
Kami

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