I installed a full retail copy of Office 2003 Professional and I have the
same issue. Missing headers.

Tyler

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Smith
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] A little CMA documentation for Outlook
> 2003 RFC non-compliance 2003 RFC non-compliance
>
>
> I'm assuming that this only happens with Outlook 2003 used with a
> non-Exchange (POP3/IMAP/SMTP mode)?
>
> Here are two headers from Outlook 2003 installed by Office 2003 Pro
> Microsoft Volume Licensing (not OEM)
>
> >From Outlook/MAPI via Exchange 2003
>
> -0-
>
> Received: from us-inboundmx.blank.com [61.220.41.95] by
> popmail.domain2.com
> with ESMTP
>   (SMTPD32-8.03) id AFB28130208; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 05:36:34 -0500
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0
> Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
>       charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Subject: testing
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:36:34 -0500
> Message-ID:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-MS-Has-Attach:
> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
> Thread-Topic: testing
> Thread-Index: AcO7G6c5ASWwh2hOTRWz0b/pUSbfKw==
> From: "Mark E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-Note: Weight: 0 - This E-mail was scanned by NETrends Systems
> (www.netrends.com) for spam.
> X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted
> X-Spam-Prob: 0.169437
> X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Status: U
> X-UIDL: 341408898
>
> -0-
>
> >From Outlook/POP3/SMTP via iMail SMTP
>
> -0-
>
> Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
> Received: from ussmtpin2.blank.com ([10.7.4.111]) by
> us-inboundmx.blank.com
> with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0);
>        Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:40:53 -0500
> Received: from popmail.domain2.com [16.196.89.161] by ussmtpin2.blank.com
> with ESMTP
>   (SMTPD32-8.03) id A0B38CD0118; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 05:40:51 -0500
> Received: from msmithd800xp [162.83.21.69] by popmail.domain2.com
> with ESMTP
>   (SMTPD32-8.03) id A0AF8330208; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 05:40:47 -0500
> From: "Mark Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mark E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Testing from domain2
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:40:47 -0500
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
> Thread-Index: AcO7HD5aazFkluigRS2DXlE/jJeQ9w==
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-RBL-Warning: SPAMHEADERS: This E-mail has headers consistent with spam
> [4000020e].
> X-RBL-Warning: MS-WHITE: Message failed MS-WHITE: 0.
> X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM
> test (27)
> X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS test
> (46)
> X-Note: Weight: 3 - This E-mail was scanned by NETrends Systems
> (www.netrends.com) for spam.
> X-RBL-Warning: WHITELISTFILE: Message failed WHITELISTFILE test (100)
> X-RBL-Warning: MS-WHITE: Message failed MS-WHITE: 0.
> X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-HELO: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-HELO test (27)
> X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM
> test (27)
> X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS test
> (37)
> X-Note: Weight: -110 - This E-mail was scanned by NETrends Systems
> (www.netrends.com) for viruses and spam.
> Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Dec 2003 10:40:53.0729 (UTC)
> FILETIME=[42002510:01C3BB1C]
>
> -0-
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.
> > Scott Perry
> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:19 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A little CMA documentation
> > for Outlook 2003 RFC non-compliance 2003 RFC non-compliance
> >
> >
> > >I have a customer who was having trouble with his messages sent to
> > >users on servers that use spam filters not being delivered.
> > I had him
> > >send a message to me so I could see what tests it fails.  As some of
> > >you may have already guessed, he's got a new pc with Outlook
> > 2003 and
> > >the messages fail the spam headers test.  I informed him that among
> > >mail server and/or spamfilter administrators this is a known issue.
> > >So, he calls MS.  MS says it's OEM software, call the
> > vendor.  Dell says I'm full of it.
> > >
> > >So...
> > >
> > >Would someone with more thorough and better understanding than mine
> > >please send me something (with permission to quote or I'd just lift
> > >from
> > >archives) that I can send to this customer?  I'm looking for
> > what it is
> > >that Outlook 2003 does wrong and what RFC it is not
> > conforming to.  He
> > >wants to then show it to Dell and request an exchange for
> > Office 2002.
> >
> > It's really a Microsoft issue (it's a bug -- er, "new
> > feature" -- in Outlook 2003), but they may have a special
> > arrangement with Dell.  Microsoft had a few complaints from
> > people using Outlook that their machine name was "leaked" in
> > the Message-ID header.  Instead of ignoring the complaint, or
> > making the host name used in the Message-ID: header
> > configurable, they chose to remove the Message-ID: header.
> >
> > Microsoft is technically RFC-compliant, *if* they understand
> > the consequences of what they did.  In order words, it is
> > only RFC-compliant if accept the fact that the E-mail sent
> > from Outlook 2003 may be marked as spam.
> >
> > Microsoft's position, from what we understand, is that they
> > expect all mailservers to whitelist outgoing E-mail from
> > Outlook 2003 users, and add the Message-ID: header.
> >
> >                                                     -Scott
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