Government Agencies are crazy. I called the SSETF and they sent me over to
the FBI. The FBI told me it is up ot paypal to get the site removed. And a
report can only be filed by PayPal or someone who got scamed.


So our only cource of action is to see if we can force them to take it down.


Kevin Bilbee
  -----Original Message-----
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
  Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:42 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam


  I am on the phione with them now. I suggest we all call and take up all of
their tech supoport lines until the site is down. I have all day.

  I reported this to them 24hours a go then reported it to the list.

  From my conversation last night with the SS Etask force if they were open
they would be giving them a call also.


  Kevin Bilbee
    -----Original Message-----
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matt
    Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:29 AM
    To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam


    The damn site is still up...24 hours later and these people haven't
pulled the site.  I just called their sales line and asked that they find
someone at a higher level to direct this to.  It's beyond me how these
people can pull up the address in a Web browser and still not get that there
is a problem.

    And for the sake of Internet archiving, let me just state for the
benefit of others, A+Net, a.k.a. Abacus America Inc of San Diego, CA, who's
Web site is located at aplus.net, has shown themselves incapable of taking
appropriate action on one of the most common Internet scams despite numerous
reports over a 24 hour period.  One can only conclude that this is the
typical level of response that they give to all support issues, and one
should take note of this before considering their services.  Other
companies, including ones as large and complex as Akamai, have resolved
issues within minutes of being reported, as they clearly understood the
immediacy of the issue at hand.

    Matt



    Kevin Bilbee wrote:

Use matts 888-301-2516 number instead. Make them pay for the call I kept
them on the phone for 30 minutes.

Kevin Bilbee

  -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam


Yes, I sent to abuse and support as per their tech support.

I just got off the phone with them. They are still disinterested
in shutting
down the site.


I have been doing some research on a place to report these issues and
actualy have someone care. This is what I found

Electronic Crimes Task Force
http://www.ectaskforce.org/regional_locations.htm


This is the Secret Service of the United States. I just spoke
with them and
they handle these issues. When calling just ask for the duty officer.

Of course they will not be available for until Tuesday.


So the more people we get to call
OrgTechName:   A Net Support
OrgTechPhone:  +1-858-410-6900
OrgTechEmail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

the quicker we can get the site shutdown.


Kevin Bilbee


    -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Klinge
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 11:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam


Pretty wild for sure.. Anyone send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

~Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 1:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam


I can't believe that this site hasn't been pulled yet.  I called
the company
just now and showed them the site.  Phone calls typically get a faster
response.  We'll see.

Matt


Colbeck, Andrew wrote:

Very convincing; in the HTML view of the message Kevin sent, you
can see the
IP address of the real destination, which is of course not PayPal.  The
website there uses all of PayPal's actual images and HTTPS
      links and forms
    to provide the user experience.... except the sucker enters
      their username
    and password into a form on the bogus site, which then sends the data to
PayPal.

Andrew ;)

p.s. When I discover these, I report them to [EMAIL PROTECTED];
they want the
message forwarded to them, not as an attachment.  So if you do
      that, make
    sure that you paste in the full headers.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Bilbee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:55 PM
To: JunkMail Declude
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam


Here is a new phishing scam. I reported it to the hosting company and
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The wesite is still live.

Kevin Bilbee


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ SPAM 9 ]Account verification.


Dear PayPal user,
As part of our continuing commitment to protect your account
and to reduce the instance of fraud on our website, we are undertaking a
period review of our member accounts.
You are requested to visit our site by following the link given below.
http://www.paypal.com/verification/%?6488820019=20
Please fill in the required information. This is required for us
to continue
to offer
you a safe and risk free environment to send and receive money online,
and maintain the PayPal Experience.
Thank you.
Accounts Management As outlined in our User Agreement, PayPal will
periodically
send you information about site changes and enhancements.
Visit our Privacy Policy and User Agreement if you have any questions.
Copyright 2003 PayPal.
All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the
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