Title: Message
Of course - it could be that law enforcement asked them to MAINTAIN the site so that they can collect evidence.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:    +1 201 934-9206

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 01:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam

Well...I called in to join the fight...but checked the site while I was on hold and it looks like they've finally taken it down...so I hung up.
 
Darin.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam

I just got off the phone with them and they said their manager is working on it.
 
How many people can we get to start calling in about 15 minutes?????
 
So, Matt I see you have called multiple times. On my last call they asked if I was Matt or Kevin.
 
 
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam

I am on the phione with them now. I suggest we all call and take up all of their tech supoport lines until the site is down. I have all day.
 
I reported this to them 24hours a go then reported it to the list.
 
From my conversation last night with the SS Etask force if they were open they would be giving them a call also.
 
 
Kevin Bilbee
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam

The damn site is still up...24 hours later and these people haven't pulled the site.  I just called their sales line and asked that they find someone at a higher level to direct this to.  It's beyond me how these people can pull up the address in a Web browser and still not get that there is a problem.

And for the sake of Internet archiving, let me just state for the benefit of others, A+Net, a.k.a. Abacus America Inc of San Diego, CA, who's Web site is located at aplus.net, has shown themselves incapable of taking appropriate action on one of the most common Internet scams despite numerous reports over a 24 hour period.  One can only conclude that this is the typical level of response that they give to all support issues, and one should take note of this before considering their services.  Other companies, including ones as large and complex as Akamai, have resolved issues within minutes of being reported, as they clearly understood the immediacy of the issue at hand.

Matt



Kevin Bilbee wrote:
Use matts 888-301-2516 number instead. Make them pay for the call I kept
them on the phone for 30 minutes.

Kevin Bilbee

  
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam


Yes, I sent to abuse and support as per their tech support.

I just got off the phone with them. They are still disinterested
in shutting
down the site.


I have been doing some research on a place to report these issues and
actualy have someone care. This is what I found

Electronic Crimes Task Force
http://www.ectaskforce.org/regional_locations.htm


This is the Secret Service of the United States. I just spoke
with them and
they handle these issues. When calling just ask for the duty officer.

Of course they will not be available for until Tuesday.


So the more people we get to call
OrgTechName:   A Net Support
OrgTechPhone:  +1-858-410-6900
OrgTechEmail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

the quicker we can get the site shutdown.


Kevin Bilbee


    
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Klinge
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 11:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam


Pretty wild for sure.. Anyone send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

~Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 1:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam


I can't believe that this site hasn't been pulled yet.  I called
the company
just now and showed them the site.  Phone calls typically get a faster
response.  We'll see.

Matt


Colbeck, Andrew wrote:

Very convincing; in the HTML view of the message Kevin sent, you
can see the
IP address of the real destination, which is of course not PayPal.  The
website there uses all of PayPal's actual images and HTTPS
      
links and forms
    
to provide the user experience.... except the sucker enters
      
their username
    
and password into a form on the bogus site, which then sends the data to
PayPal.

Andrew ;)

p.s. When I discover these, I report them to [EMAIL PROTECTED];
they want the
message forwarded to them, not as an attachment.  So if you do
      
that, make
    
sure that you paste in the full headers.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Bilbee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:55 PM
To: JunkMail Declude
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam


Here is a new phishing scam. I reported it to the hosting company and
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The wesite is still live.

Kevin Bilbee


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ SPAM 9 ]Account verification.


Dear PayPal user,
As part of our continuing commitment to protect your account
and to reduce the instance of fraud on our website, we are undertaking a
period review of our member accounts.
You are requested to visit our site by following the link given below.
http://www.paypal.com/verification/%?6488820019=20
Please fill in the required information. This is required for us
to continue
to offer
you a safe and risk free environment to send and receive money online,
and maintain the PayPal Experience.
Thank you.
Accounts Management As outlined in our User Agreement, PayPal will
periodically
send you information about site changes and enhancements.
Visit our Privacy Policy and User Agreement if you have any questions.
Copyright 2003 PayPal.
All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the
      
property of
    
their respective owners.

___________________________________________________________________
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