Jim,

It's the fact that administrators bounce spam or unaddressable E-mail accepted by gateways for large sites like AOL and Yahoo that have completely ruined the use of the nobody alias for my domains because this forged stuff is constantly hitting my server, bounced from someone like you or someone like Yahoo and AOL.  I've had a single person get over 200 bounce messages a day for things they didn't receive.  As a result of this, I now have to score system notifications from other servers high in order to hopefully catch them on a single bit of content returned that I also sometimes false positive on legitimate bounces.  If people stopped bouncing trash, none of this would be necessary.

As far as your customer goes, allowing them to tell you to bounce spam is the equivalent of telling you to spam for them IMO.  I will not bounce for my customers, I will capture in an account and they can go through that account looking for false positives if they wish, but being to lazy to want to bother is no excuse to bounce.

It doesn't matter if you only get 100 spams a day, you just shouldn't bounce.  The same thing goes for virus notifications IMO.  Don't send me notices for any virus to my postmaster address, and please don't send notices to my customers...reason being, 99.9% of them are from forged addresses these days, and this causes 100 times more harm than good.

Matt




Jim Rooth wrote:
Heck, I thought they had 10 gears but the 10th and 9th were reversed to
give you a great overdrive.  Shows what I know.  I will check the
archives again and see if I can find something that tells me different
than don't use BOUNCE!  That would be the simplest solution...

Jim Rooth
Clotron, Inc 
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214.244.0979
"If you can read this.thank a teacher
If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran!"



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Jim Jim Jim. What can I say. Sometimes, it is hard to use that new
fangled transmission that only has 9 gears instead of 13.

Check the current JunkMail manual and archives, and you will be
surprised.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


  
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Not because I want to, that's for sure.  But I have my largest 
customer who wants all mail to be sent back so the sender can see 
their email didn't go through.  They average 900 emails a day just 
from bounces! The overhead caused by it is extremely detrimental but 
they pay the bill like clockwork.

I just went through and I lied to you.  It started yesterday at 1311 
which is when I loaded the v178.i9 on the server.

Jim Rooth
Clotron, Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
214.244.0979
"If you can read this.thank a teacher
If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran!"



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I have WEIGHT40 set to bounce in the global.cfg.
      
I know you're looking for an answer, but before I give it to you, can 
I ask why you are using "WEIGHT40 BOUNCE"?

                                                    -Scott
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