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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:14 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How is declude working with smartermail?
> 
> Dave Beckstrom wrote
> > How do you prevent
> > spammers from bypassing the gateway server since smartermail
> > doesn't support a mail port which is a send only port with
> > authorization?
> 
> Are you refering to a port like 587. SmarterMail does support it in its
> current vesion.
> 
> 
> What smartermail does not support is is authentication with declude.
> Supposedly version 3 of smartermail will support authentication.
> 
> 
> Kevin Bilbee
> 

Kevin,

Yes, I was referring to port 587.  I think you and I are saying the same
thing but I'll try to clarify for everyone reading this topic.

Smartermail does not support port 587 as a submission-only port as defined
by the RFCs.  

Smartermail supports defining a secondary SMTP port.  You could configure
smartermail to accept smtp connections on both port 25 and port 587.
Unfortunately, that doesn't solve anything because we need port 587 to be a
submission-only port and to require SMTP AUTH.  The latter is the only means
we would have to keep spammers from bypassing your front-end spam filtering
gateway server.  If they find that smartermail accepts smtp connections for
delivery on port 587 and that it doesn't require any kind of authorization
they will just dump their spam there and bypass the gateway server
altogether.

Smartertools has said they will consider changing it for version 3 but they
say that about everything and they also have no plans in the near future to
release version 3.  They are working on their stats software at the moment.

I personally have concluded that the only really practical way to spam
filter is with a spam filtering gateway up front in order to off-load as
much work as possible from the mail server.

I'm searching for solutions.  I've been using ASSP which runs as proxy but
we're getting a lot of false positives with it.

Declude Pro is too expensive even with the smartertools $100 discount we
receive.











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