Thanks David. It's good to have you monitoring the list.

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


Scott,

I agree, unfortunately I do not have that information at present, I have
requested this information from the engineers and will post it a soon as
this is available.

David B
www.declude.com

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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 5:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

I don't have the order... But I believe filters are done last after External
comments.

If David's monitoring the list,
I think a list of what order the tests run in would be a great addition to
the Junkmail manual.
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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:44 PM
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We've been monitoring the MN-COMBO test (multiple tests failed) for the past
2 months.

Most are failing INV-URIBL and SNIFFER; but some only failing one of them
(either SNIFFER or INV-URIBL) but will fail DSBL/CBL/ROUTING/MXRATE. We've noticed that all the emails that we've monitored with the MN-COMBO that are spam; have multiple country hops. This is what we want to catch. Deleting based just on MN-COMBO will delete some false positives. But detecting our
MN-COMBO test and then filtering the country hops will eliminate the false
positives as they all originate outside of USA and/or start in USA then
bounce to another country, then back to USA.

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.

TIA,
Erik


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Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm out
filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's
countries.

Darrell
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Scott Fisher writes:

I think this would do it in two filters:
filter 1:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

filter 2:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company
and have their mail server overseas.
Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to
valid

servers):
#
#  Special Codes
#
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa) *B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East) *I Private IP *L
Loopback *M Multicast *P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific) *R IANA
Reserved *U Unknown


----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


Could someone help me in creating a filter?

I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?



If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END

If TESTFAILED CONTAINS "MN-COMBO" Then
  If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS "UNITED STATES" Then
     Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
    End If

  If CountryChain CONTAINS "UNITED STATES->destination" Then
     'Email is probably good (return zero)
    Else
     DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
    End If

End If

Thanks!
Erik

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