Don,

Your license to run the software does not expire. What does expire is your
right to download new updates of the software.

David Franco-Rocha
Declude Technical / Engineering

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue


> David,
>
> Thanks for the response but I only understand part of your answer.
>
> > An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired license to run
the
> > software.
>
> I know when I have an expired license agreement but when does my "license
to
> run the software" expire?
>
> Don
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Franco-Rocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
>
>
> > An expired license agreement is not equal to an expired license to run
the
> > software. It simply does not allow you to update the software, but you
can
> > continue to run the version you have been running.
> >
> > David Franco-Rocha
> > Declude Technical / Engineering
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
> >
> >
> >> I too have stayed at the 1.82 version while keeping my service contract
> >> up
> >> to date.  I am not ambitious enough to work through all the 2.x and 3.x
> >> issues.  A heart felt thank you goes out to those of you who are.
> >>
> >> With the new licensing policy in 3.x, what happens when I decide not to
> >> renew the service agreement?  Will all the Declude software I have stop
> >> working?  Am I paying for it's usage only while I have a valid service
> >> agreement?  It used to be that the service agreement allowed me major
> >> version upgrades when they were available without paying an additional
> > fee.
> >> Am I now paying for a license to "use" the software?
> >>
> >> Don
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:03 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
> >>
> >>
> >> > Bottom line is we were told if the license server was offline we
would
> > not
> >> > be impacted.  It is seeming now that that statement was not true,
> >> > though
> > I
> >> > should withhold judgement until we hear exactly why this had an
impact.
> >> > Very glad I've stuck with 1.82 at the moment, though we had a service
> >> > agreement that entitled us to upgrade to 3.x.
> >> >
> >> > I would certainly like to know what will be done to the software
> > licensing
> >> > to make sure this problem does not happen again.  Otherwise, since
mail
> > is
> >> > considered a critical system, Declude needs to staff 24/7 to address
> >> > problems as they arise.
> >> >
> >> > Darin.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "John T (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> >> > Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 3:50 PM
> >> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > True, very true. But like Andy or Darrell said, they should have done
a
> >> > test
> >> > by pulling the plug on their license server during the week when they
> > were
> >> > watching it to see what would happen.
> >> >
> >> > But of course, hind sight is always 20/20 and Monday morning
> >> > quarterbacking
> >> > is highly overrated. ;-)>
> >> >
> >> > John T
> >> > eServices For You
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown
> >> >> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 12:44 PM
> >> >> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
> >> >>
> >> >> Software and hardware breaks.  Nothing is bulletproof.  Some are
just
> >> >> better than others.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Monday, December 26, 2005, 11:50:20 AM, John T (Lists)
> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL> OUCH!
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL> Gee, I thought this is the kind of thing that we were told no
way
> >> > would happen.
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL> John T
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL> eServices For You
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> JTL>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> JTL> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
> >> > Franco-
> >> >> Rocha
> >> >> JTL>  Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 9:29 AM
> >> >> JTL>  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> >> >> JTL>  Cc: Declude.Virus@declude.com
> >> >> JTL>  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hardware Issue
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL> Due to the long holiday weekend, we have been away from the
> >> >> JTL> office for a few days. Unfortunately it has come to our
attention
> >> >> JTL> that there could be a problem with key validation on the server
> >> >> JTL> there. After some testing, we have determined that there is in
> >> >> JTL> fact a hardware issue that we expect to have resolved today.
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL> We appreciate that you have taken the time to bring this matter
> >> >> JTL> to our attention and appreciate your patience while we rectify
> >> >> JTL> the situation. We will once again post to this list when the
> >> >> issue
> >> > has been
> >> >> corrected.
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL> Declude Technical / Engineering
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >> JTL>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----
> >> >> Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA     Internet Concepts, Inc.
> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]       http://www.inetconcepts.net
> >> >> (972) 788-2364                    Fax: (972) 788-5049
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