My hand is raised.
Kevin Bilbee Standard Abrasives > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Gary Steiner > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:21 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 > > Basically you are telling me to ignore the Add Commtouch part of your > web page that shows up when I log in to my account. > > What I find particularly amusing is the line "Restrictions apply to > service providers." If there is anyone subscribed to this mailing list > who is not a service provider, please raise your hand. > > Isn't it generally a good idea to have your product's pricing defined > before you introduce the product? I'm sure that everyone here reading > the list is extremely curious as to what the revenue share program > really is, and when it does come out, unless you hear exclamations of > "What a Bargain" coming off this list there won't be many of us joining > that program. > > Other than the Commtouch add-on, are there any other features or > reasons to upgrade to 4.3? > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:03 PM > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 > > > > Gary, > > > > 1. Server Providers who use CommTouch as an add-in to Declude will be > > in violation of CommTouch's Terms of service. > > > > 2. Some of the benefits of CommTouch are Zero Hour virus protection > > and additional spam identifying technology such as Recurrent Pattern > > Detection Technology (RPD) recognized by key industry analysts as a > > leading technology in email outbreak detection. > > > > 3. We are in the process of defining the revenue share program and > > will provide the details to this when it is ready. > > > > David B > > www.declude.com > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Gary Steiner > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:09 PM > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 > > > > So, that being said, under what conditions can a legacy customer use > > Commtouch? > > > > Since it would seem that Commtouch is being offered as an add-on, > what > > are the benefits of having Commtouch? What does it do that Declude > > alone does not? > > > > And of course it would be nice if this "revenue share program" was > > spelled out somewhere. > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:57 PM > > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 > > > > > > There are restrictions on CommTouch being used by Service Providers > > > we had to ensure that NEW customers (ie. Service Providers After 1 > > > June > > > 06) understand the licensing restrictions. > > > > > > Current Service Providers (ie. Before 1 June 06) are under no > > > restrictions for using Declude; only the CommTouch add-in > component. > > > > > > However we have managed to come to an agreement with CommTouch to > > > enable our legacy customers (ie. Service Providers Before 1 June > 06) > > > to take advantage of CommTouch under a revenue share program, this > > > program is not being forced onto legacy customers but will be an > > > opportunity for us to help you increase revenues in your business, > > > by providing you with new product like the Declude Gateway which > > > would be independent of Imail/SmarterMail and will include > CommTouch. > > > > > > David B > > > www.declude.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > John T > > > (Lists) > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:02 PM > > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 > > > > > > I guess we all missed the following paragraph in the license > agreement: > > > > > > 3.2.6 sub-license, rent, sell, lease, distribute, or otherwise > > > transfer the Licensed Program save as provided under this End-User > > > License Agreement unless You obtain a separate License from > Declude, > > > Inc. for such purposes (for example, You may not embed the Licensed > > > Program into another application and then distribute such to third > > > parties unless You first acquire an OEM License from Declude, > Inc.). > > > As of June 1, 2006, ISP's and other service providers are not > > > permitted to use Declude software to clean and forward mail to > > > customers unless a separate revenue share agreement has been > > > established > > with Declude. > > > > > > http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=121 > > > > > > Is Declude trying to put us out of business? We pay for the > software > > > and now have to pay them some of your meager profits? > > > > > > John T > > > eServices For You > > > > > > "Seek, and ye shall find!" > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > > > Of Gary Steiner > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:24 AM > > > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 > > > > > > > > I guess someone is going to make an official announcement today > > > > about > > > Declude 4.3? > > > > I see that its downloadable in my account, but it would be nice > to > > > > know > > > what I'm > > > > getting before I install it, especially the new Commtouch stuff. > > > > > > > > The "Restrictions" listed next to the Add Commtouch section are > > > > especially > > > confusing. > > > > > > > > https://www.declude.com/articles.asp?ID=205 > > > > > > > > Who would use Declude and not fit the definitions of the > restrictions? > > > Based on my > > > > reading of the Restrictions, nobody who uses Declude will ever be > > > > able to > > > use > > > > Commtouch. If I am misreading this, would someone please explain > > > > it to > > > me? > > > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type > > > > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > > > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > > > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > > > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". 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