I understand, although because SM is so cheap many customers have migrated
some of their customers off of their Imail onto a SM box to help reduce load
on the Imail at the same time. Yes the cost is time, an additional server,
SM and Declude. But I think you have had some good feedback, regarding
Alligate and ORF at one point someone was touting ASSP but not sure how well
that works.

David

-----Original Message-----
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Schick
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:07 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam gateway/proxy...

David:

We have such an investment in Imail that it is not feasible for us to
switch.  Migration cost would be huge.  We host several hundred domains.
Actually we looked at switching about a year ago and we decided if we would
switch it would be to Merak mail (at least based upon our evaluation at that
time).

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:21 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam gateway/proxy...

Chuck,

Just FYI Some of these things can be achieved with SmarterMail they are able
to block connects on the SMTP.

David 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck
Schick
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:27 PM
To: Declude. JunkMail
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam gateway/proxy...

Anyone using a spam gateway (Like IMGATE) or proxy (like ASSP) in front of
declude.

I am intrigued by the idea of using something that will reject the messages
before accepting it for delivery and then scanning it.  I would only want to
use the gateway/proxy to perform graylisting, Sender Validation, tar
pitting.  According to Len Conrad this could result in a 70 to 90 percent
reduction in spam.

Ultimately I would like our spam filtering to be where we reject the message
before the data command and messages that we do accept for delivery we scan
with declude and if it is identified as spam it will be delivered to a
junkmail folder in the users mailbox - which they can check via webmail or
configure their mail clients to download it.  I want to get out of the
business of holding or deleting spam.

Any thoughts, comments, ...? what have others done.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com



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