Why not use the HELO or REVDNS? REVDNS is going to be the safest because of the 
difficulty in forging it

HELO -10 CONTAINS smtp.declude.com
or
HELO WHITELIST CONTAINS smtp.declude.com

REVDNS -10 CONTAINS smtp.declude.com
or
REVDNS WHITELIST CONTAINS smtp.declude.com

or even blanket the headers with

HEADERS -10 CONTAINS smtp.declude.com
or
HEADERS WHITELIST CONTAINS smtp.declude.com

MAILFROM would be my 4th choice if the helo or revdns was broken

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Rick

From: IMail Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 1:02 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] white list or positive weight for a specific To 
address?

“It is just our way.”  That has such a Zen sound to it, like you must find your 
own path to enlightenment.

I am still confused by both your suggestion and Randy’s.  They both seem to be 
based on the From line, which would not be declude.com.  Here are the first few 
header lines from one of Randy’s emails in this discussion:

Received: from smtp.declude.com [216.144.195.81] by mail2.bcwebhost.net with 
ESMTP
  (SMTPD-9.23) id A94001FC; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:06:56 -0700
Received: from smail.globalweb.net (smail.globalweb.net [208.74.80.105]) by 
smtp.declude.com with SMTP;
   Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:05:28 -0500
Received: from HRADellDTPC (173-163-199-121-richmond.hfc.comcastbusiness.net 
[173.163.199.121]) by smail.globalweb.net with SMTP;
   Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:05:05 -0400
From: "Randy A" <ra...@globalweb.us>
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
References: <-291971859_45532...@smtp.declude.com> 
<-170080375_45540...@smtp.declude.com> <242286454_45562...@smtp.declude.com> 
<251212219_45563...@smtp.declude.com> <258933297_45563...@smtp.declude.com> 
<317249079_45567...@smtp.declude.com> <51015843_49160...@smtp.declude.com> 
<82729453_49162...@smtp.declude.com> <119798468_49164...@smtp.declude.com>
In-Reply-To: <119798468_49164...@smtp.declude.com>
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] white list or positive weight for a specific To 
address?
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:06:08 -0400

I would expect both your whitelist technique and Randy’s counter-weighting to 
apply to the From line, which shows 
ra...@globalweb.us<mailto:ra...@globalweb.us>, not Declude.com.  So am I 
misunderstanding how these tests work?  Do they use the In-Reply-To line 
instead?  Or search the whole header?

Thanks,

Ben

From: Nick Hayer<mailto:n...@madriveraccess.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 12:12 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com<mailto:Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] white list or positive weight for a specific To 
address?

yup there is some sort of cap in global.cfg   the around that is with a 
whitelist file that would contain entries like:
MAILFROM    WHITELIST    CONTAINS    @declude.com

and clearly implementation technique is a personal thing  :)
We use compensatory filters to add/subtract weights as needed, and whitelist 
filters for whitelisting - which I am not suggesting is a better way.  Its just 
our way..

-Nick

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________________________________
From: "Randy A" <ra...@globalweb.us>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 2:23 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] white list or positive weight for a specific To 
address?
Yes but if I remember correctly there is a limit on the number of whitelist 
entries you can have in the cfg file (200 I think – please correct me if I am 
wrong) so depending on the number of domains you are hosting email for, this 
could fill up at some point.  We use the whitelist technique for our company 
needs, and the text file format for customer needs so everything is in one 
location for easier management.



Sincerely,

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From: Nick Hayer [mailto:n...@madriveraccess.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 2:10 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] white list or positive weight for a specific To 
address?

An easy way to whitelist these in your global.cfg >
WHITELIST    FROM    @declude.com

-Nick

MadRiverAccess.com|Skywaves.com Tech Support
US/Canada 877-873-6482 or International +1-802-229-6574
Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net<mailto:supp...@skywaves.net>
General and Non-Emergency support ticket:
https://www.skywaves.com/content/secure/support_ticket.htm

________________________________
From: "IMail Admin" <imailad...@bcwebhost.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 1:36 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] white list or positive weight for a specific To 
address?
Can you give me the line you used in the config file?

From: Randy A<mailto:ra...@globalweb.us>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 12:18 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com<mailto:Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] white list or positive weight for a specific To 
address?

On my declude config, I set up a GoodMailList test text file, added a negative 
point value to this test, and then I add any of my customer’s email lists that 
were getting flagged by declude



Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
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Toll Free: 877.800.4562

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From: Imail Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 6:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] white list or positive weight for a specific To 
address?

Hi,

The emails I receive from this list have various >From lines but always have 
one To line: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com<mailto:Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>. 
 I would like to white list or, better yet, add a positive weight for emails I 
receive addressed to 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.com<mailto:Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>.  How do I do 
this?

Thanks,

Ben


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