Thunderbird just simply works.  My only complaint is that the spell checker sucks and has serious problems if you are off by more than one letter.  For the type of work that we do, it is definitely a better application.  The E-mail is stored in plain text files so you can search it that way, and there's none of that magic stuff that hides important things from you the way that Outlook does.  And of course hardly any known vulnerabilities for auto-execution.

Matt



Darin Cox wrote:
Plain text would be my preference as well, to see headers and message at once.

Hmmm...may have to try Thunderbird again.  It seemed to be missing some features I liked in OE the last time I tried it.  I would use Outlook, but it still experiences too many failures in communicating with the TCP/IP stack, and is too slow and bloated for my taste...and preview doesn't seem to work as well as OE.  If MS would combine the best features of OE and Outlook, they'd have a better mail client.
 
Darin.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] blocking eml and msg attachments

Hmm, works fine in Thunderbird/Netscape, or at least I can see it as plain text.

It seems from Pete's MIME headers that he intended for the message to just simply be attached and viewable as the original message.  If he changed the extension to .eml that should work.  I'm not sure whether or not is is better to see the plain text source or the rendered message.  I guess I am used to seeing the plain text and it is easier for me to figure out what the rule matched that way without a Ctrl+U to view the source (shortcut in Thunderbird/Netscape).

Matt



Darin Cox wrote:
Yep... banning 1.msg wouldn't be a good idea unless we can get Pete to
change the name of his attachments.  I myself would prefer them not to be
named .msg (.txt would be _great_) as I can't open them directly in OE that
way.  I have to save them to disk in order to see which false positive I
reported.

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Declude.Virus@declude.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] blocking eml and msg attachments


My bad. I was not banning eml and msg. I realized that as I was getting AOL
feedbacks. What I was banning was 1.msg as there was a virus reported to be
using that.

Sniffer responds to false positives and in doing so, renames the request to
1.msg as an attachment to the response.

John T
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-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:01 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] blocking eml and msg attachemtns

With Declude 1.82, we haven't had any trouble with decoding and blocking
viruses or banned attachments in attached .eml or .msg files.  We wouldn't
block them separately because of all of forwarded messages sent as
attachments, both by us, AOL feedback loops, and by our users.

Darin.


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Declude.Virus@declude.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 1:32 PM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] blocking eml and msg attachemtns


What are others thoughts on blocking eml and msg attachments?

If there is an eml or msg attachment which that has a executable or virus
attachment, will Declude properly decode it and will it be scanned for
viruses and banned attachments?

John T
eServices For You


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