Darin,
I would suggest maybe trying 1.0.6 instead of the beta. I have no
measurable delay moving from one message to another; it's
instantaneous. Even in the IMail Forum which I have messages going
back to 1/1/2004, everything happens instantly. I am not on a laptop,
and my system is only slightly faster as far as the stats go, but I
don't think that makes a difference. Maybe the newer versions do
things differently. I would doubt that the developers would accept a
noticeable slowdown in a final version.
Matt
Darin Cox wrote:
According to the Thunderbird web
page and download filename, Thunderbird has a 1.5.1 beta 1. Check the
website. However, when I installed it, it said it was installing 1.4.
Startup speed for Thunderbird is way
faster than OE at just a few seconds compared to 20-30 seconds for OE,
however I leave email open all day every day, so startup isn't much of
an issue for me.
What I am seeing much slower in
Thunderbird is moving from one message to another in the preview
window. In OE it's very snappy with ~1/2 second response, but in
Thunderbird I'm seeing 1-3 seconds before I can read the message.
Also, double-clicking to open the message is between 0.5 and 1 second
in OE, but 3-4 seconds in Thunderbird.
So, for reading mail quickly, it's
much slower for me on a 3GHz P4 laptop with 1GB RAM.
I have about 1GB of email in a
couple hundred folders.
Darin.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] blocking eml and msg
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Darin,
I'm confused. FireFox, the Web browser is at 1.5.1 beta, but
Thunderbird, the E-mail client, is at 1.0.6.
I'm also not clear on what you mean regarding speed. I am very happy,
and it seems to me that an empty OE or Outlook is much slower to
launch, and Thunderbird seems faster when there is a ton of E-mail in a
folder. Thunderbird is meant to be a fairly lean application. It is
also very stable, at least on my system. I have about 7 E-mail
accounts going, and I over 2 GB of E-mail dispersed through them.
You might be running into issues with indexing folders following an
initial setup? Maybe you could be more specific about the speed issues.
Matt
Darin Cox wrote:
Just loaded it (1.5.1 beta).
Seems to be almost identical to OE for the way I use it...except
slower. Speed is one of the reasons I use OE instead of Outlook. :(
Darin.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] blocking eml and msg
attachments
Thunderbird just simply works. My only complaint is that the spell
checker sucks and has serious problems if you are off by more than one
letter. For the type of work that we do, it is definitely a better
application. The E-mail is stored in plain text files so you can
search it that way, and there's none of that magic stuff that hides
important things from you the way that Outlook does. And of course
hardly any known vulnerabilities for auto-execution.
Matt
Darin Cox wrote:
Plain
text would be my preference as well, to see headers and message at once.
Hmmm...may have to try
Thunderbird again. It seemed to be missing some features I liked in OE
the last time I tried it. I would use Outlook, but it still
experiences too many failures in communicating with the TCP/IP stack,
and is too slow and bloated for my taste...and preview doesn't seem to
work as well as OE. If MS would combine the best features of OE and
Outlook, they'd have a better mail client.
Darin.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] blocking eml and msg
attachments
Hmm, works fine in Thunderbird/Netscape, or at least I can see it as
plain text.
It seems from Pete's MIME headers that he intended for the message to
just simply be attached and viewable as the original message. If he
changed the extension to .eml that should work. I'm not sure whether
or not is is better to see the plain text source or the rendered
message. I guess I am used to seeing the plain text and it is easier
for me to figure out what the rule matched that way without a Ctrl+U to
view the source (shortcut in Thunderbird/Netscape).
Matt
Darin Cox wrote:
Yep... banning 1.msg wouldn't be a good idea unless we can get Pete to
change the name of his attachments. I myself would prefer them not to be
named .msg (.txt would be _great_) as I can't open them directly in OE that
way. I have to save them to disk in order to see which false positive I
reported.
Darin.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Declude.Virus@declude.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] blocking eml and msg attachments
My bad. I was not banning eml and msg. I realized that as I was getting AOL
feedbacks. What I was banning was 1.msg as there was a virus reported to be
using that.
Sniffer responds to false positives and in doing so, renames the request to
1.msg as an attachment to the response.
John T
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:01 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] blocking eml and msg attachemtns
With Declude 1.82, we haven't had any trouble with decoding and blocking
viruses or banned attachments in attached .eml or .msg files. We wouldn't
block them separately because of all of forwarded messages sent as
attachments, both by us, AOL feedback loops, and by our users.
Darin.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Declude.Virus@declude.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 1:32 PM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] blocking eml and msg attachemtns
What are others thoughts on blocking eml and msg attachments?
If there is an eml or msg attachment which that has a executable or virus
attachment, will Declude properly decode it and will it be scanned for
viruses and banned attachments?
John T
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