Yeah, that sounds easier (less to install, distribute and maintain). We
might have a go at whipping up a sample application.
Im sure further questions are coming :)
Thanks to everyone for their helpful suggestions so far :)
Rob Martin
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Jeremy Coulter wrote:
Why not just use HTTP and encrypt the data you are sending (which will just
be a simple string encryption like tripple DES). Same as HTTPS and easier to
implement.
When ever I use HTTP for anything from withing Delphi, I use the Synapse
code and its REALLY easy, better than Indy, and a far smaller code foot
print.
Jeremy
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Nick
Sent: 8 June 2007 10:16
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Simple VCL for web aplication
With all the tutorials on PHP it'd be a piece of cake to do with notepad (I
prefer crimson editor for it's nice syntax highlighting), with https all you
need to do is include some dll files with your app (and get a ssl
certificate for your web server etc which your host could organize)
Nick
Robert martin wrote:
OK I have used Indy before. Haven't used https but I assume thats
pretty much just a setting. I assume I could send my csv as
compressed / Encrypted binary data.
We don't have Delphi PHP and I am not sure it is warranted for a
project this size. What would people recommend.
Rob Martin
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Nick wrote:
Rob,
Sounds like just using Indy idHttp (preferably over https) with php
would do all you need.
So you could call something like mypage.php?option=getclients Which
can return the client data as csv back to your delphi app, just like
getting a web page - advantage of that is gets around some firewalls
that block lots of ports but leave 80 open ;-)
However anyone watching the wire could see that url being requested,
and when they type it into there browser they see all the client data
as well so you can either encrypt the parameters and decrypt them in
php, or use https.
I've used similar approaches to the above for bug submissions and
customer registrations and works well.
Cheers
Nick
Robert martin wrote:
Hi Neven
Yes a fat client (Delphi Win 32 app) that simply needs to send some
data to a centralised web DB (Voucher sales / redemptions) and get
from a centralised web site voucher sales / redemptions from other
sites. I don't want to do direct web based DB connection so I
thought a simple web server that processed send / get commands would
be best.
A further requirement is a web page (s) that can display information
from DB i.e. Sales info.
So the visual aspect is very low. I need to get a simple proof of
concept built (just reading / writing to a flat file) and then will
extend it to a full DB application (I was going to use Firebird
Embedded, because we know that (and have access components) but if
we are using Non Delphi technologies then I suppose other DB types
are up for grabs :) ) But thats another conversation :)
Hope that makes it clearer.
Rob Martin
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Neven MacEwan wrote:
Robert
Is this a web app? ie a browser based client? I'd use PHP and AJAX
(which is what Delphi for PHP uses) If you want "roll your own"
look at this ajax lib http://www.ajaxtoolbox.com/request/
From the way your expressing yourself (ie SOAP) I think you are
looking at a Fat client talking to a Web Server backend and unless
you have extreme graphics requirement at the client I wouldn't
bother
It would be easier to advise if we knew more
HTH
Neven
Ok. We don't have ASP.Net or PHP (I suppose we could get one or
other).
How would my Delphi app receive / send the data? SOAP?
Rob Martin
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Xander (GMail) wrote:
Only a very brave person will start a new web application in
Delphi! Use ASP.NET or even PHP. Either of these two will provide
you with web services capabilities that you can call from your
Delphi client.
Regards
Xander
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:05 PM
To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
Subject: RE: [DUG] Simple VCL for web aplication
Am I the only one thinking that this should be done in ASP.NET?
Writing some simple soap service and a reporting page is pretty
much as easy as it gets .. perfect to get your toes wet in a
newer better supported technology (who knows how much longer
intraweb will be supported).
Kind Regards,
Stefan Mueller
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:52 PM
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Yeah, not there :-(
Rob Martin
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Nick wrote:
C:\Program Files\CodeGear\ etc etc
Robert martin wrote:
Hi
Didn't even think about that ! We are using D2007. Cant even
find the demos directory, must be having a blond moment :)
Rob Martin
Software Engineer
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Nick wrote:
Rob,
Have you checked out the intraweb demos in the demos folder?
With D2006 Ent there are a bunch...
Nick
Robert martin wrote:
Hi
I am trying to put together a simple VCL for web application.
I can get a simple web page going which is great however I
would also like to provide some services i.e.
some sort of get data and send data functionality from a
delphi client app. Is this possible or do i need to use SOAP
and create a web service app?
The situation is we want to be able to have an app then sends
a small amount of data to a web site (DB) and receives data
(perhaps large) from the web site. However there is also a
requirement for a web interface reporting some data.
This isn't something I have much knowledge in but the VCL for
web (Intraweb) stuff looked like it would make the web
interface simple.
Suggestions?
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