Robert

try this one http://www.maxpc.co.uk/tutorials/default.asp?siteid=7&sectiontypeid=7&subsectionid=706&subsubsectionid=530&pagetypeid=2&articleid=36731&page=1

it doesn't use ajaxlib but you could see how it fits in, the result sending code is as simple as

<?php
header( Content-Type: text/xml);
echo <?xml version=”1.0” stand
alone=”yes”?><postCode><city>
Bath</city><county>Avon</
county></postCode> ;
?>

I don't write my own raw XML but rather use the SimpleXML Class

I must admit I had a chuckle over "non visual server application in PHP"
since all PHP applications are non visual

Neven


Hi

Admittedly I don't know much about web apps but I am struggling to get my head around the client and server separation in relation to PHP. All the pages I have looked at focus only on web pages. Does anybody have a link to developing a non visual server application in PHP.

Tia

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Neven MacEwan wrote:
Robert

I'd recommend PHP for the Server code, its so trivial i don't see you needing an IDE (though if you do decide you need one look at www.nusphere.com) for my first year of PHP dev I just used an editor

Neven
Yeah, that sounds easier (less to install, distribute and maintain). We might have a go at whipping up a sample application.
Im sure further questions are coming :)

Thanks to everyone for their helpful suggestions so far :)

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Jeremy Coulter wrote:
Why not just use HTTP and encrypt the data you are sending (which will just be a simple string encryption like tripple DES). Same as HTTPS and easier to
implement.
When ever I use HTTP for anything from withing Delphi, I use the Synapse code and its REALLY easy, better than Indy, and a far smaller code foot
print.
Jeremy

-----Original Message-----
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With all the tutorials on PHP it'd be a piece of cake to do with notepad (I prefer crimson editor for it's nice syntax highlighting), with https all you
need to do is include some dll files with your app (and get a ssl
certificate for your web server etc which your host could organize)

Nick


Robert martin wrote:
OK I have used Indy before. Haven't used https but I assume thats pretty much just a setting. I assume I could send my csv as compressed / Encrypted binary data. We don't have Delphi PHP and I am not sure it is warranted for a project this size. What would people recommend.

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Nick wrote:
Rob,

Sounds like just using Indy idHttp (preferably over https) with php would do all you need. So you could call something like mypage.php?option=getclients Which can return the client data as csv back to your delphi app, just like getting a web page - advantage of that is gets around some firewalls that block lots of ports but leave 80 open ;-)

However anyone watching the wire could see that url being requested, and when they type it into there browser they see all the client data as well so you can either encrypt the parameters and decrypt them in php, or use https.

I've used similar approaches to the above for bug submissions and customer registrations and works well.

Cheers
Nick

Robert martin wrote:
Hi Neven

Yes a fat client (Delphi Win 32 app) that simply needs to send some data to a centralised web DB (Voucher sales / redemptions) and get from a centralised web site voucher sales / redemptions from other sites. I don't want to do direct web based DB connection so I thought a simple web server that processed send / get commands would be best.

A further requirement is a web page (s) that can display information from DB i.e. Sales info.

So the visual aspect is very low. I need to get a simple proof of concept built (just reading / writing to a flat file) and then will extend it to a full DB application (I was going to use Firebird Embedded, because we know that (and have access components) but if we are using Non Delphi technologies then I suppose other DB types are up for grabs :) ) But thats another conversation :)

Hope that makes it clearer.

Rob Martin
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Neven MacEwan wrote:
Robert

Is this a web app? ie a browser based client? I'd use PHP and AJAX (which is what Delphi for PHP uses) If you want "roll your own" look at this ajax lib http://www.ajaxtoolbox.com/request/

From the way your expressing yourself (ie SOAP) I think you are looking at a Fat client talking to a Web Server backend and unless you have extreme graphics requirement at the client I wouldn't bother

It would be easier to advise if we knew more

HTH

Neven

Ok. We don't have ASP.Net or PHP (I suppose we could get one or other).

How would my Delphi app receive / send the data?  SOAP?




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Xander (GMail) wrote:
Only a very brave person will start a new web application in Delphi! Use ASP.NET or even PHP. Either of these two will provide you with web services capabilities that you can call from your Delphi client.

Regards
Xander

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Am I the only one thinking that this should be done in ASP.NET?
Writing some simple soap service and a reporting page is pretty much as easy as it gets .. perfect to get your toes wet in a newer better supported technology (who knows how much longer intraweb will be supported).

Kind Regards,
Stefan Mueller

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Yeah, not there  :-(

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Nick wrote:
C:\Program Files\CodeGear\ etc etc


Robert martin wrote:
Hi

Didn't even think about that ! We are using D2007. Cant even find the demos directory, must be having a blond moment :)

Rob Martin
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Nick wrote:
Rob,

Have you checked out the intraweb demos in the demos folder?
With D2006 Ent  there are a bunch...

Nick

Robert martin wrote:
Hi

I am trying to put together a simple VCL for web application. I can get a simple web page going which is great however I would also like to provide some services i.e. some sort of get data and send data functionality from a delphi client app. Is this possible or do i need to use SOAP and create a web service app?


The situation is we want to be able to have an app then sends a small amount of data to a web site (DB) and receives data (perhaps large) from the web site. However there is also a requirement for a web interface reporting some data. This isn't something I have much knowledge in but the VCL for web (Intraweb) stuff looked like it would make the web interface simple.

Suggestions?


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