Speaking as a cyclist as well as a car-driver, I mostly agree with you, hence my mention of tolerance from both sides, and my reference to the small minority of cyclists was basically to the type of cyclist you talk of. As a commuter cyclist though (and not really one of the lycra jockeys), I receive a fair share of abuse from car drivers who tar all cyclists with the same brush, e..g "you cyclists just think you own the road". Sure, some of them wrongly do, but I'm not "some cyclists"; I'm just one guy who tries to respect the road rules, stops at red lights, doesn't ride on the pavement, wants to get home to his family at the end of the day, and doesn't appreciate getting cut up unnecessarily.
Some people don't seem to be able to differentiate. To be honest, I seem to have more trouble with bus-drivers than car-drivers... ;-) C. ________________________________ From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Cameron Hart Imho it is not getting stuck behind bikes that gets car drivers irate, but the flaunting of the road rules demonstrated by cyclists. Car drivers start thinking it is unfair every time they see one ride through a red light, or fail to indicate, or ride double/triple, or skip from road to footpath as it suits, and unless everyones is following the same rules it starts to turn into two sides - them against us. You start resenting cyclists because they are not following the rules you are required to. Maybe they should address this imbalance by bringing into effect some things like cycle licenses (so you know they are qualified and even know the road rules), headlights, brake lights, and indicators. Maybe they need a WOF and cycle registration. Bring us all onto an equal footing and more respect for cyclists might be found. It is easy to be tolerant of others when it is a level playing field. cameron From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Robert martin Sent: Friday, 29 January 2010 10:23 a.m. To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] Apple iPad - OT What an idiot. I think what most of the nasty drivers forget is that for every cyclist on the road its one less car for them to get stuck behind. However I must admit the Dyers pass road is terrible to drive up / down especially with the Lycra brigade riding two a breast up a thin winding road. No excuse for nocking people off the road or for driving a hummer ! Rob On 29/01/2010 9:53 a.m., Conor Boyd wrote: Basically the need for a bit more tolerance from both cyclists and car-drivers to sharing the road. Exacerbated this week by a guy who lives in Cashmere, drives a black Hummer (plate WARNIN with a surround that says "does not play well with others"), and who posted online this week that he had knocked 2 cyclists into the kerb in the last 6 months and was quite prepared to do the same again, but who subsequently half-heartedly apologised after he realised that he was easily identifiable as Richard Freeman, the co-owner of the Sign of the Takahe cafe/restaurant and a number of other businesses who look like they will be taking a bit of a dent in patronage from now on. Front page news in the Press on Wednesday I think it was. Following by an alleged case of car-passenger assault on a cyclist at the bottom of Dyers Pass Road yesterday morning. Neither side are completely blameless, and it's a small minority on either side who make it seem more of a car/cyclist war than it actually is, or than it should be. Personally, I'm glad I've got a commute that mostly sticks to quieter roads than the main arteries. C. ________________________________ From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Robert martin I come in from the other side (St Albans). Whats happening in Cashmere? I'm obviously out of the loop :) On 29/01/2010 9:23 a.m., Conor Boyd wrote: Likewise. Although we won't mention the current Cashmere-based shenanigans.
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