I ride bicycle in Auckland  around 10 years. Auckland road is not fit for 
riding bicycle. Most road does not have proper cycle way. The cycle way is not 
continuous. And the road suppose to ride bicycle is only around 20 cm wide and 
shared with cars. And car runs very fast. It is so easy to be hit by the car in 
Auckland. I guess riding bicycle is far more easy to be killed than driving 
car. So to look after myself not to be hit by the car, riding on pavement is 
quite acceptable. Anyway the pavement most of the time is empty.

I saw most car have four seats and only one driver sitting in the car which 
wastes lots of natural resource moving around. Remember we only have one earth 
to live.

From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On 
Behalf Of Cameron Hart
Sent: Friday, 29 January 2010 2:27 p.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Apple iPad - OT

Imho it is not getting stuck behind bikes that gets car drivers irate, but the 
flaunting of the road rules demonstrated by cyclists.  Car drivers start 
thinking it is unfair every time they see one ride through a red light, or fail 
to indicate, or ride double/triple, or skip from road to footpath as it suits, 
and unless everyones is following the same rules it starts to turn into two 
sides - them against us.  You start resenting cyclists because they are not 
following the rules you are required to.

Maybe they should address this imbalance by bringing into effect some things 
like cycle licenses (so you know they are qualified and even know the road 
rules), headlights, brake lights, and indicators.  Maybe they need a WOF and 
cycle registration.

Bring us all onto an equal footing and more respect for cyclists might be 
found.  It is easy to be tolerant of others when it is a level playing field.

cameron

From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On 
Behalf Of Robert martin
Sent: Friday, 29 January 2010 10:23 a.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Apple iPad - OT

What an idiot.
I think what most of the nasty drivers forget is that for every cyclist on the 
road its one less car for them to get stuck behind.  However I must admit the 
Dyers pass road is terrible to drive up / down especially with the Lycra 
brigade riding two a breast up a thin winding road.  No excuse for nocking 
people off the road or for driving a hummer !

Rob



On 29/01/2010 9:53 a.m., Conor Boyd wrote:
Basically the need for a bit more tolerance from both cyclists and car-drivers 
to sharing the road.

Exacerbated this week by a guy who lives in Cashmere, drives a black Hummer 
(plate WARNIN with a surround that says "does not play well with others"), and 
who posted online this week that he had knocked 2 cyclists into the kerb in the 
last 6 months and was quite prepared to do the same again, but who subsequently 
half-heartedly apologised after he realised that he was easily identifiable as 
Richard Freeman, the co-owner of the Sign of the Takahe cafe/restaurant and a 
number of other businesses who look like they will be taking a bit of a dent in 
patronage from now on.

Front page news in the Press on Wednesday I think it was.

Following by an alleged case of car-passenger assault on a cyclist at the 
bottom of Dyers Pass Road yesterday morning.

Neither side are completely blameless, and it's a small minority on either side 
who make it seem more of a car/cyclist war than it actually is, or than it 
should be.

Personally, I'm glad I've got a commute that mostly sticks to quieter roads 
than the main arteries.

C.

________________________________
From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz<mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz> 
[mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Robert martin

I come in from the other side (St Albans).  Whats happening in Cashmere?  I'm 
obviously out of the loop :)

On 29/01/2010 9:23 a.m., Conor Boyd wrote:
Likewise.

Although we won't mention the current Cashmere-based shenanigans.






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