On 4 Jul 2012, at 08:09, Charles Moulliard wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Yesterday night, a interesting and vibrant discussion took place on IRC
> channel about new look'n'feel of DeltaSpike. As we are human, with different
> colors perceptions and different tastes, I have find the time this morning
> to compile some projects and ask you your opinion about which one you prefer
> and that we could adopt to prepare a model/mock-up for DeltaSpike.
> 
> Camel :  http://camel.apache.org http://camel.apache.org  - []
> Play :  http://www.playframework.org http://www.playframework.org  - []
> MongDB :  http://www.mongodb.org http://www.mongodb.org  - []
> Accumulo:  http://accumulo.apache.org http://accumulo.apache.org  - []
> Wookie :  http://incubator.apache.org/wookie
> http://incubator.apache.org/wookie  - []
> River :  http://river.apache.org http://river.apache.org  - []
> OpenEJB :  http://openejb.apache.org openejb.apache.org  - []
> Lucene :  http://lucene.apache.org http://lucene.apache.org  - []
> Libcloud :  http://libcloud.apache.org http://libcloud.apache.org  - []
> Esme:  http://esme.apache.org http://esme.apache.org  - []
> Chemistry:  http://chemistry.apache.org chemistry.apache.org  - []
> Cassandra :  http://cassandra.apache.org http://cassandra.apache.org  - []

The order I like them, one I like the least at the bottom:

TomEE (Great, it tells me what it is, I've got a video to look at really 
quickly, it gives me a call to action, it leads me into getting started, it's 
got news, there aren't too many things to do)
Cassandra (This is great, it's got a clear thing for me to do (download), tells 
me what Cassandra is, and I can easily choose where to go next)
MongoDB (This is pretty good, they've kept the information quite relevant on 
the front page with features, events, case studies, only criticism is they have 
4 calls to action)
ESME (This is a nice clean site. Not too many links, it tells me what it is. 
There is a (slightly hidden) call to action. There is no updates about what is 
going on. I can easily find how to get started and get involved).
Lucene (This is pretty good, it tells me what Lucene is, it gives a me a call 
to action, it has some news (with dates!). However it's muddled by being about 
multiple projects, and therefore multiple CTAs. I couldn't see how to get 
started)
Play (this is a bit cluttered, too much going on)
Libcloud (this has the right info (references, what is it, how to get started), 
but's its not where I expect it, which is confusing. The vendor logos distract 
me. There is no obvious call to action). Design is a bit in your face)
Chemistry (This has some of the right info - it tells me what it is but there 
is no call to action, I can't see where to get started, there are too many 
logos (apache + CMIS + Chemistry). It does have project news, with dates, 
design feels a bit cobbled together)
Camel (this is ok, it took me a while to find the call to action, and it's not 
obvious (a shrinkwrapped box doesn't shout DOWNLOAD), there are generally too 
many options, it looks very old school)
Wookie (no call to action, no info on what's going on, I can easily find where 
to start though)
Accumulo (no call to action, no info on what is going on (e.g. events), very 
boring theme, i'm not sure how I would get started)
River (no call to action, no info on what it is, too many links, very boring 
theme, but does have some updating content - but no dates, which really negates 
the purpose of it)

> 
> Beside the look'n'feel, there are also importants questions like :
> 
> A) Number of columns for the body  
> - 3 columns with left TOC, body in the middel and Search/Twitter/News on the
> right () []
> - 2 columns with left TOC, body on the right (accumulo, wookie, esme) []
> - 2 columns with right TOC, body on the left (camel, river) []
> - 1 column (like OpenEjb, Cassandra or Play) []

I like starting with 1 column, and then having more underneath. Navigation on 
the top, rather in the body, works well for me.

> 
> B) Theme to be chosen
> - http://bootswatch.com/ [],
> - http://www.oswd.org/designs/favorites/ []
> 
> C) Adoption of CSS3 Grid System or not
> - 960.gs []
> - http://www.1kbgrid.com/ []
> - No Grid System [] 
> (After checking some incubators Apache web site, it appears that nobody uses
> GS) 

I would use bootstrap, and create our own design.

Here are a couple of bootstrap based sites we did that we did the design for:

http://arquillian.org/
http://www.jboss.org/jdf/

and as a result, don't really look like bootstrap.

> 
> What else, a tea or a coffee and take the time to surf on the Net to figure
> out what Deltaspike WebSite should looks like and next add a cross mark in
> the [] of this email.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
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