You mean to the second list?
I like that, because it contains the java keyword "return"
With this I would feel comfortable with 1.C

What do the others think?


Am 15.12.12 21:51 schrieb "Gerhard Petracek" unter
<[email protected]>:

>we could add @SecuredOnReturn to the list.
>
>regards,
>gerhard
>
>
>
>2012/12/15 Arne Limburg <[email protected]>
>
>> I am also not happy with that name.
>>
>> So we have to decide about two annotations
>> 1. The method-level annotation of the authorizer method:
>>   A. @Secures(BEFORE_INVOCATION) and @Secures(AFTER_INVOCATION)
>>   B. @Secures and @SecuresResult
>>   C. @Secures for both (pre- and post method-invocation authorization,
>> distinguishing by the existence of the parameter-level annotation)
>> 2. The parameter-level annotation of the injected result (something
>>like a
>> qualifier for the result of the business-method invocation)
>>   A. @Result
>>   B. @SecuredResult
>>   C. Other proposals?
>>
>> And we should consider both together, i.e. The word "Result" in the
>> method-level annotation AND the parameter-level annotation looks ugly.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Arne
>>
>> Am 14.12.12 18:15 schrieb "Gerhard Petracek" unter
>> <[email protected]>:
>>
>> >-1 for @Result (as a name), because the name is too generic.
>> >
>> >regards,
>> >gerhard
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >2012/12/14 Arne Limburg <[email protected]>
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have done the coding and we just need to agree on the names of the
>> >> annotations.
>> >> Looking at the gist I have no strong opinion on one of the solutions.
>> >> However I like the @Secures(AFTER_INVOCATION) a little more because
>>of
>> >>to
>> >> things:
>> >> First it is symmetric to @Secures(BEFORE_INVOCATION) and second the
>> >>other
>> >> solution has the word "Result" twice in the declaration: once in the
>> >> method annotation and once in the parameter annotation.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Arne
>> >>
>> >> Am 13.12.12 21:09 schrieb "Arne Limburg" unter
>> >> <[email protected]>:
>> >>
>> >> >Hi Mark,
>> >> >
>> >> >I have coded a gist to lookup an address from an entityManager (see
>> >>[1])
>> >> >using the groups suggested by Rudy:
>> >> >
>> >> >group1 (in my case users with role "guest")  -> no access at all
>> >> >group2 (in my case the owner of the address) -> has access but only
>>to
>> >>a
>> >> >limited set of result types (access to his addresses)
>> >> >group3 (in my case users with role "admin")  -> has access and can
>>see
>> >>all
>> >> >result
>> >> >
>> >> >I have coded the authorizer twice once using
>>@Secures(AFTER_INVOCATION)
>> >> >and once using @SecuresResult.
>> >> >I think it is obvious that we need just one interceptor (for the
>>custom
>> >> >security annotation @Read)
>> >> >and it should be obvious, too, that it makes no sense to annotate
>>one
>> >>of
>> >> >the authorizer methods with both @Secures and @SecuresResult
>> >> >
>> >> >Hope that helps,
>> >> >Arne
>> >> >
>> >> >[1] https://gist.github.com/4279323
>> >> >
>> >> >Am 13.12.12 19:27 schrieb "Mark Struberg" unter <[email protected]>:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>Could be helpful if we gather some samples in a gist?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>It seems that I have a different understanding about it's usage
>>than
>> >>Arne
>> >> >>(which is much more into it). Arnes argument sounded well funded,
>>but
>> >> >>this excesses my knowledge right now.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>It basically boils down to
>> >> >>
>> >> >>1. does it make sense to have both annotations on the same method?
>> >> >>2. will the stuff get handled by the same interceptor? (well, we
>>will
>> >> >>anyway do the @Dependent InterceptorStrategy trick for it I guess,
>>so
>> >>no
>> >> >>real problem)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>LieGrue,
>> >> >>strub
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>> From: Jason Porter <[email protected]>
>> >> >>> To: "[email protected]"
>> >> >>><[email protected]>; Mark Struberg
>> >><[email protected]
>> >> >
>> >> >>> Cc:
>> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:32 PM
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] DELTASPIKE-298 support
>> >>post-method-authorization
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> +1 to Mark's names
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Mark Struberg
>><[email protected]>
>> >> >>>wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>  what about @Secures and @SecuresResult?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>  These are 2 different inteceptors, right?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>  A method could also have both
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>  @Secures and
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>  @SecuresResult
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>  LieGrue,
>> >> >>>>  strub
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>  >________________________________
>> >> >>>>  > From: Arne Limburg <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>  >To: "[email protected]" <
>> >> >>>>  [email protected]>
>> >> >>>>  >Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:11 PM
>> >> >>>>  >Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] DELTASPIKE-298 support
>> >> >>>>post-method-authorization
>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >>>>  >OK,
>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >>>>  >so I would go with your first suggestion, Romain:
>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >>>>  >@Secures(BEFORE_INVOCATION) and @Secures(AFTER_INVOCATION)
>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >>>>  >That would leave the readability of the authorizer method and
>> >> >>>>  >BEFORE_INVOCATION could be the default, so that it could left
>> >>blank.
>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >>>>  >Of course the extension detects at deployment time the problem
>> >>that
>> >> >>>>a
>> >> >>>>  >authorizer method exists with @Secures(BEFORE_INVOCATION) and
>>a
>> >> >>> parameter
>> >> >>>>  >annotated with @Result and suggests to use
>> >> >>>>@Secures(AFTER_INVOCATION)
>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >>>>  >Wdyt?
>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >>>>  >Am 13.12.12 12:03 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" unter
>> >> >>>>  ><[email protected]>:
>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >>>>  >>if you add the "post" management @Secures will be
>> >> >>> ambiguous (even if
>> >> >>>>  >>naturally i understand pre is implicit) so i'd just switch it
>> >> >>>>  >>
>> >> >>>>  >>if the API is explicit enough to not need doc it is better ;)
>> >> >>>>  >>
>> >> >>>>  >>Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> >>>>  >>Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> >> >>>>  >>Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> >> >>>>  >>LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> >> >>>>  >>Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> >> >>>>  >>
>> >> >>>>  >>
>> >> >>>>  >>
>> >> >>>>  >>2012/12/13 Arne Limburg <[email protected]>:
>> >> >>>>  >>> Btw. are we talking about another name for @Secures or for
>> >> >>> @Result?
>> >> >>>>  >>>
>> >> >>>>  >>> Thinking about @Secures it should not be too confusing
>> >> >>> (talking with
>> >> >>>>  >>> myself here ;-) ), since the developer knows, if he needs
>>the
>> >> >>> result
>> >> >>>>  for
>> >> >>>>  >>> evaluation or not. So either he adds @Result and will know
>> >> >>> that the
>> >> >>>>  >>>method
>> >> >>>>  >>> needs to be invoked before the authorization. Or he
>> >> >>> doesn't need the
>> >> >>>>  >>> result, then the intuitive thing is, that the authorization
>> >> >>> takes place
>> >> >>>>  >>> before the business method invocation...
>> >> >>>>  >>>
>> >> >>>>  >>> Am 13.12.12 11:55 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" unter
>> >> >>>>  >>> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >>>>  >>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>so i'd go for @PreSecures and @PostSecures, just
>> >> >>> explicit
>> >> >>>>  >>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>but i wouldn't something not symmetrical
>> >> >>>>  >>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> >>>>  >>>>Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> >> >>>>  >>>>Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> >> >>>>  >>>>LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> >> >>>>  >>>>Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> >> >>>>  >>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>2012/12/13 Arne Limburg
>> >> >>> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> @Secures sounds cool at a first glance, but may it be
>> >> >>> confusing for
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>users?
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> And also we should support a mixture of
>> >> >>> @SecurityParameterBindings
>> >> >>>>  and
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> result, so the annotation should somehow indicate that
>> >> >>> the parameter
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>is
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> the return value of the method invocation.
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> Consider the following example:
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> @Copy
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> public MyObject copy(@Source MyObject source) {
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>   ...
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> }
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> public class MyCopyAuthorizer {
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>   @Secures @Copy
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>   public boolean isCopyAllowed(@Source MyObject
>> >> >>> source,
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> @SecuredReturnValue MyObject target) {
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>     ...
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>   }
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> }
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> where @Copy is a @SecurityBindingType and @Source is a
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> @SecurityParameterBinding
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> Cheers,
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> Arne
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> Am 13.12.12 11:45 schrieb "Romain
>> >> >>> Manni-Bucau" unter
>> >> >>>>  >>>>> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>Why @Secures is not fine?
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>if the rule is "on parameter" it is a
>> >> >>> post it can be enough.
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>Another solution is @Secure(hook = POST) with a
>> >> >>> default to PRE
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>2012/12/13 Arne Limburg
>> >> >>> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> Feel free to make a suggestion.
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> What about
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> @SecuredResult
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> or
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> @SecuredReturnValue
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> ?
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> Am 13.12.12 10:50 schrieb "Gerhard
>> >> >>> Petracek" unter
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>+1, but imo we need a better name for it.
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>regards,
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>gerhard
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>2012/12/13 Rudy De Busscher
>> >> >>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> All,
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> I had once also such a requirement
>> >> >>> (post-method authorization)
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>where
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>this
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> could be very handy.
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> We kept information about persons
>> >> >>> (name, age, address, medical
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>info,
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>...)
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> but there where some categories. One
>> >> >>> kind of category was linked
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>to
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>the
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> Royals and you needed a special role
>> >> >>> before you could read the
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>information.
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> So we where only able to determine if
>> >> >>> the user was allowed to
>> >> >>>>  read
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>the
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> person information after we had read
>> >> >>> it frmo the database and
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>matched
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>the
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> category.
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> So
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> +1
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> Regards
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> Rudy
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> On 13 December 2012 09:26, Arne
>> >> >>> Limburg
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>><[email protected]
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >wrote:
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > Hi Jean-Louis,
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > A simple use case is a method
>> >> >>> that creates an object, stores it
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>to
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>the
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > database and returns it.
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > You may want to check the object
>> >> >>> to decide if the user is
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>allowed
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>to
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > create it. With my proposal it is
>> >> >>> as easy as:
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > public class MyObjectRepository {
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >   @Create
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >   public MyObject create() {
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >      ...
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >   }
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > }
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > public class MyAuthorizer {
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >   @Secures @Create
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >   public boolean
>> >> >>> canCreate(@Result MyObject object) {
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >     // security check here
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >   }
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > }
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > Hope that makes it clear. And
>> >> >>> note that the check may depend on
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>the
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>state
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > of the object, i.e. the user is
>> >> >>> just allowed to create the
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>object,
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>if
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>he
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > is the owner...
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > Cheers,
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > Arne
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > Am 13.12.12 09:20 schrieb
>> >> >>> "Jean-Louis MONTEIRO" unter <
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >:
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >Hi Arne,
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >Just read the JIRA but could
>> >> >>> not find a relevant use case for
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>that.
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >But if you proposed it, I
>> >> >>> probably missed something so if you
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>could
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >elaborate a bit more.
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >Jean-Louis
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >2012/12/13 Mark Struberg
>> >> >>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> +1
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >>> ------------------------------
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> Arne Limburg schrieb am
>> >> >>> Mi., 12. Dez 2012 23:38 PST:
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >Hi,
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >What do you think of
>> >> >>> supporting post-method-authorization
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>(see
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>[1])
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> in
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> addition to our current
>> >> >>> pre-method-authorization?
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >I just started
>> >> >>> coding it and it is not much to do.
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >Cheers,
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >Arne
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >[1]
>> >> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-298
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >--
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >Jean-Louis
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >>>>  >>>
>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>> Jason Porter
>> >> >>> http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com
>> >> >>> http://twitter.com/lightguardjp
>> >> >>>
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