OK,

So if noone else has objections, I'll go with approach one from the gist
(the one described in ReadingAuthorizer0):
@Secures at the method and @SecuredReturn at the parameter.

Cheers,
Arne


Am 15.12.12 23:07 schrieb "Gerhard Petracek" unter
<[email protected]>:

>that's why i didn't mention backward compatibility at all.
>(imo changing the api of @Secures for this feature is just not needed...)
>
>regards,
>gerhard
>
>
>
>2012/12/15 Arne Limburg <[email protected]>
>
>> Hence I supposted to use BEFORE_INVOCATION as default value such that
>> existing applications would continue to work as before. So it would be a
>> backward-compatible api change.
>>
>>
>> But I am also happy with using just @Secures and detect the existence
>>of a
>> @SecuredReturn parameter to determine, if pre-method authorization
>>should
>> take place or post-method invocation.
>>
>> Am 15.12.12 22:44 schrieb "Gerhard Petracek" unter
>> <[email protected]>:
>>
>> >hi arne,
>> >
>> >adding a value to @Secures (e.g. AFTER_INVOCATION) would be such a
>>change.
>> >
>> >regards,
>> >gerhard
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >2012/12/15 Arne Limburg <[email protected]>
>> >
>> >> Hi Gerhard,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I am a little confused. What do you mean by "no api change for
>> >>@Secures"?
>> >> Are you talking about the method level annotation or the parameter
>> >> annotation that is needed as a "qualifier" for the result of the
>> >>business
>> >> method?
>> >>
>> >> Am 15.12.12 22:29 schrieb "Gerhard Petracek" unter
>> >> <[email protected]>:
>> >>
>> >> >+1 for @SecuredOnReturn or @SecuredResult as an additional
>>annotation
>> >>(->
>> >> >no api changes for @Secures).
>> >> >
>> >> >regards,
>> >> >gerhard
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >2012/12/15 Arne Limburg <[email protected]>
>> >> >
>> >> >> I've updated the gist [1] (see ReadingAuthorizer0) to see how it
>> >>works
>> >> >>out.
>> >> >> If we leave out the "on", then it would even read better. You
>>could
>> >>read
>> >> >> the method call like a sentence:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> public boolean isAllowedToRead(@SecuredReturn Address a...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So +1 for @SecuredReturn from me
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [1] https://gist.github.com/4279323
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Am 15.12.12 21:59 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" unter
>> >> >> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >and the secure one too so it is not ambigous +1 for this one
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> >> >Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> >> >> >Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> >> >> >LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> >> >> >Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >2012/12/15 Arne Limburg <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >> You mean to the second list?
>> >> >> >> I like that, because it contains the java keyword "return"
>> >> >> >> With this I would feel comfortable with 1.C
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> What do the others think?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Am 15.12.12 21:51 schrieb "Gerhard Petracek" unter
>> >> >> >> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>we could add @SecuredOnReturn to the list.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>regards,
>> >> >> >>>gerhard
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>2012/12/15 Arne Limburg <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> I am also not happy with that name.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> So we have to decide about two annotations
>> >> >> >>>> 1. The method-level annotation of the authorizer method:
>> >> >> >>>>   A. @Secures(BEFORE_INVOCATION) and
>>@Secures(AFTER_INVOCATION)
>> >> >> >>>>   B. @Secures and @SecuresResult
>> >> >> >>>>   C. @Secures for both (pre- and post method-invocation
>> >> >>authorization,
>> >> >> >>>> distinguishing by the existence of the parameter-level
>> >>annotation)
>> >> >> >>>> 2. The parameter-level annotation of the injected result
>> >>(something
>> >> >> >>>>like a
>> >> >> >>>> qualifier for the result of the business-method invocation)
>> >> >> >>>>   A. @Result
>> >> >> >>>>   B. @SecuredResult
>> >> >> >>>>   C. Other proposals?
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> And we should consider both together, i.e. The word "Result"
>>in
>> >>the
>> >> >> >>>> method-level annotation AND the parameter-level annotation
>>looks
>> >> >>ugly.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Cheers,
>> >> >> >>>> Arne
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Am 14.12.12 18:15 schrieb "Gerhard Petracek" unter
>> >> >> >>>> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >-1 for @Result (as a name), because the name is too generic.
>> >> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >regards,
>> >> >> >>>> >gerhard
>> >> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >2012/12/14 Arne Limburg <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> Hi all,
>> >> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> I have done the coding and we just need to agree on the
>> >>names of
>> >> >> >>>>the
>> >> >> >>>> >> annotations.
>> >> >> >>>> >> Looking at the gist I have no strong opinion on one of the
>> >> >> >>>>solutions.
>> >> >> >>>> >> However I like the @Secures(AFTER_INVOCATION) a little
>>more
>> >> >>because
>> >> >> >>>>of
>> >> >> >>>> >>to
>> >> >> >>>> >> things:
>> >> >> >>>> >> First it is symmetric to @Secures(BEFORE_INVOCATION) and
>> >>second
>> >> >>the
>> >> >> >>>> >>other
>> >> >> >>>> >> solution has the word "Result" twice in the declaration:
>> >>once in
>> >> >> >>>>the
>> >> >> >>>> >> method annotation and once in the parameter annotation.
>> >> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> Cheers,
>> >> >> >>>> >> Arne
>> >> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> Am 13.12.12 21:09 schrieb "Arne Limburg" unter
>> >> >> >>>> >> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >Hi Mark,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >I have coded a gist to lookup an address from an
>> >>entityManager
>> >> >> >>>>(see
>> >> >> >>>> >>[1])
>> >> >> >>>> >> >using the groups suggested by Rudy:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >group1 (in my case users with role "guest")  -> no
>>access at
>> >> >>all
>> >> >> >>>> >> >group2 (in my case the owner of the address) -> has
>>access
>> >>but
>> >> >> >>>>only
>> >> >> >>>>to
>> >> >> >>>> >>a
>> >> >> >>>> >> >limited set of result types (access to his addresses)
>> >> >> >>>> >> >group3 (in my case users with role "admin")  -> has
>>access
>> >>and
>> >> >>can
>> >> >> >>>>see
>> >> >> >>>> >>all
>> >> >> >>>> >> >result
>> >> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >I have coded the authorizer twice once using
>> >> >> >>>>@Secures(AFTER_INVOCATION)
>> >> >> >>>> >> >and once using @SecuresResult.
>> >> >> >>>> >> >I think it is obvious that we need just one interceptor
>>(for
>> >> >>the
>> >> >> >>>>custom
>> >> >> >>>> >> >security annotation @Read)
>> >> >> >>>> >> >and it should be obvious, too, that it makes no sense to
>> >> >>annotate
>> >> >> >>>>one
>> >> >> >>>> >>of
>> >> >> >>>> >> >the authorizer methods with both @Secures and
>>@SecuresResult
>> >> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >Hope that helps,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >Arne
>> >> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >[1] https://gist.github.com/4279323
>> >> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >Am 13.12.12 19:27 schrieb "Mark Struberg" unter
>> >> >> >>>><[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>Could be helpful if we gather some samples in a gist?
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>It seems that I have a different understanding about
>>it's
>> >> >>usage
>> >> >> >>>>than
>> >> >> >>>> >>Arne
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>(which is much more into it). Arnes argument sounded
>>well
>> >> >>funded,
>> >> >> >>>>but
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>this excesses my knowledge right now.
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>It basically boils down to
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>1. does it make sense to have both annotations on the
>>same
>> >> >> >>>>method?
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>2. will the stuff get handled by the same interceptor?
>> >>(well,
>> >> >>we
>> >> >> >>>>will
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>anyway do the @Dependent InterceptorStrategy trick for
>>it I
>> >> >> >>>>guess,
>> >> >> >>>>so
>> >> >> >>>> >>no
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>real problem)
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>LieGrue,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>strub
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> From: Jason Porter <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> To: "[email protected]"
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>><[email protected]>; Mark Struberg
>> >> >> >>>> >><[email protected]
>> >> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> Cc:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:32 PM
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] DELTASPIKE-298 support
>> >> >> >>>> >>post-method-authorization
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> +1 to Mark's names
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Mark Struberg
>> >> >> >>>><[email protected]>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>wrote:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  what about @Secures and @SecuresResult?
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  These are 2 different inteceptors, right?
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  A method could also have both
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  @Secures and
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  @SecuresResult
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  LieGrue,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  strub
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >________________________________
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  > From: Arne Limburg <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >To: "[email protected]" <
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  [email protected]>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:11 PM
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] DELTASPIKE-298 support
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>post-method-authorization
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >OK,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >so I would go with your first suggestion, Romain:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >@Secures(BEFORE_INVOCATION) and
>> >> >>@Secures(AFTER_INVOCATION)
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >That would leave the readability of the authorizer
>> >>method
>> >> >> >>>>and
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >BEFORE_INVOCATION could be the default, so that it
>> >>could
>> >> >> >>>>left
>> >> >> >>>> >>blank.
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >Of course the extension detects at deployment time
>>the
>> >> >> >>>>problem
>> >> >> >>>> >>that
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>a
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >authorizer method exists with
>> >>@Secures(BEFORE_INVOCATION)
>> >> >> >>>>and
>> >> >> >>>>a
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> parameter
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >annotated with @Result and suggests to use
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>@Secures(AFTER_INVOCATION)
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >Wdyt?
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >Am 13.12.12 12:03 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau"
>>unter
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  ><[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>if you add the "post" management @Secures will be
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> ambiguous (even if
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>naturally i understand pre is implicit) so i'd
>>just
>> >> >>switch
>> >> >> >>>>it
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>if the API is explicit enough to not need doc it
>>is
>> >> >>better
>> >> >> >>>>;)
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>2012/12/13 Arne Limburg
>> >><[email protected]
>> >> >:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>> Btw. are we talking about another name for
>> >>@Secures or
>> >> >> >>>>for
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> @Result?
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>> Thinking about @Secures it should not be too
>> >>confusing
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> (talking with
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>> myself here ;-) ), since the developer knows,
>>if he
>> >> >>needs
>> >> >> >>>>the
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> result
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  for
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>> evaluation or not. So either he adds @Result and
>> >>will
>> >> >> >>>>know
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> that the
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>method
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>> needs to be invoked before the authorization.
>>Or he
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> doesn't need the
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>> result, then the intuitive thing is, that the
>> >> >> >>>>authorization
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> takes place
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>> before the business method invocation...
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>> Am 13.12.12 11:55 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau"
>> >>unter
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>so i'd go for @PreSecures and @PostSecures, just
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> explicit
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>but i wouldn't something not symmetrical
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>2012/12/13 Arne Limburg
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> @Secures sounds cool at a first glance, but
>>may
>> >>it
>> >> >>be
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> confusing for
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>users?
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> And also we should support a mixture of
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> @SecurityParameterBindings
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  and
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> result, so the annotation should somehow
>>indicate
>> >> >>that
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> the parameter
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>is
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> the return value of the method invocation.
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> Consider the following example:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> @Copy
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> public MyObject copy(@Source MyObject source)
>>{
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>   ...
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> }
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> public class MyCopyAuthorizer {
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>   @Secures @Copy
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>   public boolean isCopyAllowed(@Source
>>MyObject
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> source,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> @SecuredReturnValue MyObject target) {
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>     ...
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>   }
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> }
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> where @Copy is a @SecurityBindingType and
>>@Source
>> >> >>is a
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> @SecurityParameterBinding
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> Cheers,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> Arne
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> Am 13.12.12 11:45 schrieb "Romain
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> Manni-Bucau" unter
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>Why @Secures is not fine?
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>if the rule is "on parameter" it is a
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> post it can be enough.
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>Another solution is @Secure(hook = POST) with
>>a
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> default to PRE
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>LinkedIn:
>>http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>2012/12/13 Arne Limburg
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> Feel free to make a suggestion.
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> What about
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> @SecuredResult
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> or
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> @SecuredReturnValue
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> ?
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> Am 13.12.12 10:50 schrieb "Gerhard
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> Petracek" unter
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>> <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>+1, but imo we need a better name for it.
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>regards,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>gerhard
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>2012/12/13 Rudy De Busscher
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> All,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> I had once also such a requirement
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> (post-method authorization)
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>where
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>this
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> could be very handy.
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> We kept information about persons
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> (name, age, address, medical
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>info,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>...)
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> but there where some categories. One
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> kind of category was linked
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>to
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>the
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> Royals and you needed a special role
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> before you could read the
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>information.
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> So we where only able to determine if
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> the user was allowed to
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  read
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>the
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> person information after we had read
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> it frmo the database and
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>matched
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>the
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> category.
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> So
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> +1
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> Regards
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> Rudy
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> On 13 December 2012 09:26, Arne
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> Limburg
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>><[email protected]
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >wrote:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > Hi Jean-Louis,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > A simple use case is a method
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> that creates an object, stores it
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>to
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>the
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > database and returns it.
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > You may want to check the object
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> to decide if the user is
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>allowed
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>to
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > create it. With my proposal it is
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> as easy as:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > public class MyObjectRepository {
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >   @Create
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >   public MyObject create() {
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >      ...
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >   }
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > }
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > public class MyAuthorizer {
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >   @Secures @Create
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >   public boolean
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> canCreate(@Result MyObject object) {
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >     // security check here
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >   }
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > }
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > Hope that makes it clear. And
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> note that the check may depend on
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>the
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>state
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > of the object, i.e. the user is
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> just allowed to create the
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>object,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>if
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>he
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > is the owner...
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > Cheers,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > Arne
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > Am 13.12.12 09:20 schrieb
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> "Jean-Louis MONTEIRO" unter <
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >Hi Arne,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >Just read the JIRA but could
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> not find a relevant use case for
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>that.
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >But if you proposed it, I
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> probably missed something so if you
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>could
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >elaborate a bit more.
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >Jean-Louis
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >2012/12/13 Mark Struberg
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> +1
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> ------------------------------
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> Arne Limburg schrieb am
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> Mi., 12. Dez 2012 23:38 PST:
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >Hi,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >What do you think of
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> supporting post-method-authorization
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>(see
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>[1])
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> in
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> addition to our current
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> pre-method-authorization?
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >I just started
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> coding it and it is not much to do.
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >Cheers,
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >Arne
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >[1]
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-298
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >--
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> > >Jean-Louis
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> >
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>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >>>>>
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>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >
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>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>  >
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> Jason Porter
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> http://twitter.com/lightguardjp
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> Software Engineer
>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> Open Source Advocate
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