On Wed, 2024-08-14 at 10:18 -0700, Donald J. Stewart wrote: > UPDATE: > > I started completely from scratch. This is the order I used: > > Insert 2 grace notes, selected eighth note rhythm, deleted one of the > notes, > deleted the slur that was automatically added, changed to eighth note > duration > on grace note, THEN selected Grace After On/Off... > > And that changed the position correctly. > > I believe that the order in which I placed the notes was the problem. > When > placing and altering the notes (remove stem, add parentheses) and > THEN > selecting Grace After, there was no effect. > > Now I'm having difficulty altering the grace note (altering notehead > to > harmonic, removing stem, adding parentheses). > > Is it possible that Grace After doesn't allow for further alterations > of grace > notes?
I just tested changing the notehead style and parenthesizing the note and there is indeed a bug - while \parenthesize does position itself well for the application of after grace the notehead style does not - it appears before the \grace in the output, which the \attachGraces does not like. I moved it inside the \grace {} construct thus: MvmntIVoiceI = { \attachGraces #3/4 c'1 \grace {\once \override NoteHead.style = #'harmonic \parenthesize f'8} \AutoEndMovementBarline } and that is fine. I don't know what command you use the get no stem, but you may have the same problem with that - altering the order may fix that too. HTH Richard > > On Wednesday, August 14, 2024 9:11:28 AM PDT Donald J. Stewart wrote: > > Thanks Richard, > > > > I did start with the Grace After feature but it didn't seem to > > change the > > grace note position and in Print View it appears in measure after > > where it > > appears in Denemo. > > > > I've changed the default 'fractional position' of 3/4 to many > > different > > fractions, but it still stays in exactly the same place -- which is > > after > > the barline and near the following note. At first I thought I was > > turning > > the feature On and Off each time I applied the feature, but that > > didn't > > seem to be the case. > > > > It seems that no matter what I do -- delete the grace note, and > > start a new > > one -- it doesn't make the change. > > > > I'm using Andreas' 2.6.38 build for Debian/Ubuntu. > > > > It was only then that I tried the LilyPond \afterGrace command > > which changed > > the grace note position, but then moved the following quarter note > > out of > > the next measure, pushing everything else out of rhythmic > > alignment. > > > > I'd rather stay within Denemo to make these changes. Is there a > > possibility > > the Grace After feature has been deactivated on my build or system? > > > > Donald > > > > On Wednesday, August 14, 2024 2:31:18 AM PDT Richard Shann wrote: > > > On Tue, 2024-08-13 at 15:23 -0700, Donald J. Stewart wrote: > > > > I'm trying to move a grace note to 'attach' itself to the note > > > > immediately preceding it by using > > > > > > > > Directives->Insert LilyPond > > > > > > > > and inserting > > > > > > > > \afterGrace > > > > > > Denemo has a command to manage the LilyPond syntax for after > > > graces: > > > > > > Command: Grace After (Off/On) > > > The grace note(s) at the cursor will be typeset close to the > > > previous > > > note, rather than attaching to the music that follows. It will be > > > spaced from the note at the fraction of the duration given. > > > (OFF/ON) > > > Location: Object Menu ▶ Notes/Rests ▶ Grace Notes > > > Internal Name: GraceAfter > > > > > > The current version (2.6.34) allows you to say how close to the > > > preceding note you want the grace note to come. > > > > > > > as per the LilyPond Notation Reference > > > > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/notation/grace-notes > > > > > > > > It does pull the grace note to that note, but it also pulls the > > > > note > > > > after it into the same measure -- which consequently takes it > > > > out of > > > > the correct measure. (marked in red) > > > > > > If you're question is about LilyPond syntax you will get much > > > more > > > expert help from lilypond-u...@gnu.org - I consulted them myself > > > just > > > the other day. In any case you will need to provide a short > > > example > > > showing the syntax you are using (you can get this by copying and > > > pasting from the LilyPond View in Denemo). > > > > > > Richard > > > >