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Daniel John Debrunner commented on DERBY-2109:
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Rick wrote:

> 2) AuthorizationID -- this is the SQL concept of identity. This is 
> case-insensitive unless double-quoted. 

We seem to be using the same terms for slightly different concepts.

I believe I'm using authorization identifier in the way that the SQL standard 
defines it. This would be a case-sensitive value that defines a unique identity 
in the sql system (database). Thus an authorization identifier is never double 
quoted, contradicting your statement 2).

A UserName is a representation of an authorization identifier using the SQL 
rules for regular and delimited identifiers and thus has the case folding rules 
etc.

In SQL this behaviour, mapping UserName to authorization identifier is defined 
by the standard.

In Java code and Java property files Derby chose to use SQL identifier rules 
(ie. UserName) as the representation of an authorization identifier. Looking 
back this maybe was a poor choice, a direct representation of the authorization 
identifier might have been better, (ie. jdbc:derby:cs;user=fred and 
jdbc:derby:cs;user=FRED would connect as different authorization ids, today 
they map to the same authorization id). So if we want to be consistent with 
other Java uses, the policy file should probably use UserName, however using 
authorization identifier might be clearer.

> 1) UserName -- this is part of the credentials passed to the authentication 
> service. This could be case-sensitive or case-insensitive depending on the 
> rules of the authentication service.

I think the last sentence is incorrect. The rules of UserName are set by Derby, 
not an arbitrary implementation of the authentication service.
As above, the rules for how UserName map to a unique identity follows the rules 
of SQL identifiers, and thus UserNames of FRED and fred always map to the same 
unique identity FRED. However, I'm not sure you agree with this, since you are 
promoting authorization identifier as a SQL only concept. That may be a valid 
approach, but I think you need to clearly state the rules for that, and then we 
can discuss if having two different models (one for database and one for 
system) adds any benefit or adds complication. The rules would need to state 
how UserName maps to a unique identity in a system context.


  

> System privileges
> -----------------
>
>                 Key: DERBY-2109
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-2109
>             Project: Derby
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: Security
>    Affects Versions: 10.3.1.4
>            Reporter: Rick Hillegas
>            Assignee: Martin Zaun
>         Attachments: DERBY-2109-02.diff, DERBY-2109-02.stat, 
> derby-2109-03-javadoc-see-tags.diff, DERBY-2109-04.diff, DERBY-2109-04.stat, 
> DERBY-2109-05and06.diff, DERBY-2109-05and06.stat, DERBY-2109-07.diff, 
> DERBY-2109-07.stat, DERBY-2109-08.diff, DERBY-2109-08.stat, 
> DERBY-2109-08_addendum.diff, DERBY-2109-08_addendum.stat, 
> SystemPrivilegesBehaviour.html, systemPrivs.html, systemPrivs.html, 
> systemPrivs.html, systemPrivs.html
>
>
> Add mechanisms for controlling system-level privileges in Derby. See the 
> related email discussion at 
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.db.derby.devel/33151.
> The 10.2 GRANT/REVOKE work was a big step forward in making Derby more  
> secure in a client/server configuration. I'd like to plug more client/server 
> security holes in 10.3. In particular, I'd like to focus on  authorization 
> issues which the ANSI spec doesn't address.
> Here are the important issues which came out of the email discussion.
> Missing privileges that are above the level of a single database:
> - Create Database
> - Shutdown all databases
> - Shutdown System
> Missing privileges specific to a particular database:
> - Shutdown that Database
> - Encrypt that database
> - Upgrade database
> - Create (in that Database) Java Plugins (currently  Functions/Procedures, 
> but someday Aggregates and VTIs)
> Note that 10.2 gave us GRANT/REVOKE control over the following  
> database-specific issues, via granting execute privilege to system  
> procedures:
> Jar Handling
> Backup Routines
> Admin Routines
> Import/Export
> Property Handling
> Check Table
> In addition, since 10.0, the privilege of connecting to a database has been 
> controlled by two properties (derby.database.fullAccessUsers and 
> derby.database.defaultConnectionMode) as described in the security section of 
> the Developer's Guide (see 
> http://db.apache.org/derby/docs/10.2/devguide/cdevcsecure865818.html).

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