I think there was some distinction in the Apache policy regarding "visible to developers" versus "visible to users", right?
Following up on my own message, the two important Apache-wide policy links appear to be: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html and http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#releases From the former page, we read that 10.4, right now, is a "Test package", and we read this guidance: During the process of developing software and preparing a release, various packages are made available to the developer community for testing purposes. Do not include any links on the project website that might encourage non-developers to download and use nightly builds, snapshots, release candidates, or any other similar package. The only people who are supposed to know about such packages are the people following the dev list (or searching its archives) and thus aware of the conditions placed on the package. If you find that the general public are downloading such test packages, then remove them. I think that the bottom line is that: - the release candidate builds should *not* be linked from the wiki, and - I made a mistake when I made a posting regarding the release candidate on the derby-user list; release candidates should only be discussed on the derby-dev list. My apologies, I'll try to be more careful in the future. thanks, bryan
