Hi Design team members, all! I just wanted to ask whether somebody kindly picked the topic mentioned below ... maybe I missed that. As far as I know, it would a tiny but helpful improvement.
cheers, Christoph Am Donnerstag, den 02.12.2010, 00:40 +0100 schrieb Christoph Noack: > Hi all! > > I forward this request to the LibreOffice Design Team, okay? > > Guys, Kohei asks for two icons to improve the current behavior of the > status bar. More detailed, it is about the little "Document Modified" > icon that appears if ... hard to guess ... a document has been modified > and is not yet saved. > > There are some issues that might be resolved by having the current > indication (that looks a bit too frightening, having a red exclamation > mark ...) look like: > * Document unchanged: Very (!) subtle document icon > * Document changed: Subtle document icon having a kind of yellow > star to indicate something is "new" > > Details below ... > > It would be great if somebody could pick that up and either publish it > in our wiki (suggestion: in your user page), or directly send it to the > developers mailing list for review. Thanks in advance! :-) > > > Maybe large parts of the discussion took place on the "wrong" mailing > list, so you'll find the request by Kohei below (and a link to some > initial design drafts). Some more hints: > > * My original comments concerning (also other parts of the) status > bar can be found here. It also contains the rationale to come up > with the document style icons: > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2010-November/003712.html > > * Kohei also sent the current files (one being empty, but this > should be changed, of course): > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2010-December/003777.html > > * The design of the currently used "Zoom slider icons" (by Stella) > is available here for inspiration (to get an idea about the size > and the currently used style): > > http://ui.openoffice.org/VisualDesign/OOo_icons_zoomslider.html#iconszoom > > > Concerning the latter - the challenge is to create icons that > communicate the "status information only" character. There is nothing > executed in contrast to the zoom slider icons being also located in the > status bar (please don't ask why it then is still called a status bar > *g*). > > Thanks a lot in advance! > > Cheers, > Christoph > > > Am Mittwoch, den 01.12.2010, 16:00 -0500 schrieb Kohei Yoshida: > > On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 08:16 +0100, Sebastian Spaeth wrote: > > > Part 2 on the Changed icon part. > > > > > > On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:31:44 +0100, Christoph Noack wrote: > > > > DOCUMENT CHANGED INDICATION> > > > > A solution should: > > > > * just work > > > > * be unobtrusive (don't catch attention if it isn't required, > > > > don't waste space) > > > > * be self-explanatory (if possible) > > > Right > > > > > > Ideally, we would not need that status bar and change the "Save" icon > > > depending on whether there are changes that can be saved or not > > > (e.g. overlay it with a yellow asterisk or so). I am one of the persons > > > that agree that the save button should always work. But that doesn't > > > mean that the save button cannot convey information on whether it is > > > currently sensible to do so. (Alternatively gray it out if unmodified, > > > but still allow it to be pressed). This would be my favorite > > > solution. Putting that aside, let's work on making the status bar icon > > > non-annoying, our ideas are pretty much the same. > > > > > > > But the current solution isn't perfect, of course. Current issues: > > > > * The extended help tip still mentions the '*' for a changed > > > > document. > > > > > > Right, tiny issue > > > > * For unsaved documents, the normal tool tip mentions "The > > > > document has not been modified since the last save." (Small > > > > issue, may not be changed). > > > I don't have a problem with that, except that I have to mouse over an > > > apparently empty are to see that toolbar. Why not always have an icon > > > that changes appearance? > > > > That was my initial idea, but the icon author apparently had a different > > idea. > > > > This is what it looked like originally: > > http://kohei.us/2009/07/27/hackweek-minor-polish/ > > > > which was a bad rip-off of the current save icon, hence updated to the > > current, new, originally authored icons. > > > > Now, as I said in my other post, I would very much like to have someone > > with good artistic sense to help me come up with new images to replace > > the current ones. I'll try to find the current images and post them to > > the list shortly. > > > > Kohei > > > > > _______________________________________________ > LibreOffice mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
