Even more quickly: Can someone show me the rip-off line in the Impress icon?
I actually didn't see it. :P
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Paulo José O. Amaro
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Em 2 de fevereiro de 2011 19:03, Paulo José Amaro <paul...@gmail.com>escreveu:

> Very quickly: i'm personally for the Jaron Gear. I've done the detailing
> job on it too, but the proposal here looks better actually. :D
>
> ~Paulo
>
> 2011/2/2 Christoph Noack <christ...@dogmatux.com>
>
> Hi Bernhard, hi Thorsten!
>>
>> I keep the full mail, since I'd like to forward it to Thorsten - who
>> might not be aware of this mail.
>>
>> Am Mittwoch, den 02.02.2011, 21:27 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
>> > Hi Jaron, all,
>> >
>> > sorry that I can't work on the icons today, but I'm sick - the stomach
>> > flu my children had during the last days caught myself.
>>
>> :-( Oh, please recover very soon ...
>>
>> > So I try to get at least the most important stuff done...
>> >
>> > Jaron Kuppers schrieb:
>> > > Hi Bernhard,
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Bernhard Dippold<
>> > > bernh...@familie-dippold.at>  wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Macro_icons.png
>> > >>
>> > >> Do you think they are okay in comparable in quality?
>> > >>
>> > > I think the "Jaron gear" works better at the 16px but "Paulo's gear"
>> looks
>> > > better at the 128px size.
>> >
>> > I just copied the shadings Paulo used for his icons to the "Jaron gear"
>> > - but as Paulo has limited Internet access he will probably not be able
>> > to step in in time.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Which one should we propose to include in LibreOffice 3.3.1?
>> > >>
>> > >> As part of our collaborative work I'd like to include Jaron's.
>> > >>
>> > > If you honestly think Paulo's gear is better don't include my change.
>>  I
>> > > would rather the better icon be shipped out.  My feelings won't be
>> hurt. :-)
>> >
>> > My personal impression is that your gear look more technical, it can't
>> > be mistaken as star or flower.
>> >
>> > So as nobody else commented on them, I'd go with yours.
>> >
>> > I'm quite sure that these icons will be visible on the user's desktop
>> > quite seldom - and from my personal experience (not UX based) these
>> > people rather use smaller than larger document icons.
>> > >
>> > > I integrated Jaron's Macro icons and the lighter Impress template
>> gradient
>> > >> in this source file:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-pre_final.svg
>> > >>
>> > >> If we are okay with the icons in this file, they will be the ones to
>> hand
>> > >> over to Thorsten tomorrow.
>> > >>
>> > >> So please comment all: Critics, approval, what ever else:
>> > >>
>> > > In general the icons look great!  My five dislikes are: (by the way it
>> > > started at 2 and then I got really critical)
>> > > 1) Calc 128px icon: The middle column at the top row is a little
>> light.
>> > > 2) Calc 128px icon: The lines on the bar graph next to the orange bar
>> > > contrast too much
>> > > 3) Draw 16px icon: I liked it better in a previous iteration where the
>> > > triangle was the same equilateral triangle as in the other icons
>> > > 4) Impress 128px icon: The shadow could be a little bit darker I
>> think...
>> > > (opacity changed to ~80)
>> > > 5) HTML/Web 16px icon: If you take the 32px "World" and shrink it to
>> the
>> > > 16px world size and then change the "web" to 0.5 px width you get a
>> nicer
>> > > icon.*
>> >
>> > I can see all the points (perhaps except the last one - I'd like to have
>> > it visualized), some of them apply to the 256px icons too: So yes, there
>> > is room for improvement.
>> >
>> > I'd like to read Paulo's and Christoph's comments (and other's).
>> >
>> > But as time for improvements for the LibO 3.3.1 release seems to be
>> > over, we'll have to work on them for the next release.
>> >
>> > As your proposals don't change the general look&feel, it will not lead
>> > to user confusion when we change the icons slightly in the next
>> releases.
>> >
>> > So I'd like to ask Thorsten to use this file to create the icons to be
>> > included in LibreOffice 3.3.1:
>> >
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/d/d4/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-pre_final.svg
>> >
>> >
>> > I can't find the issue/bug where the first version of the icons has been
>> > uploaded to bugs.freedesktop.org, so I can't attach the file there.
>>
>> But we do have the wiki page ;-)
>>
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons#Source_Code_Integration
>>
>> However, I've added the link to the most recent files to the issue
>> tracker.
>>
>> > It's a great result for a really collaborative work - and we go on this
>> > way with the new logo (I like Nik's proposal very much - will comment it
>> > tomorrow) and other tasks !
>>
>> Thorsten, might that work? I didn't follow the discussion that closely
>> concerning how to export / do the icons. Do you need some help, then
>> please ask on the mailing list.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I'm unable to help today/tomorrow, since I'm also a bit
>> busy as well :-\
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Christoph
>>
>>
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