Yeah, I'm still not seeing the problem in Inkscape.  I was able to
import the .AI file and output the following:

PNG: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Scatter.png
SVG: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Scatter.svg

The SVG preview is incorrect.

Rob



On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Hillar Liiv <liivhil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I don't get the svg problem.
> Is this as it must be?: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Same.png
> This is how the inkscape shows it to me.
>
> SVG: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Same.svg Firefox have some
> problem showing it correctly, IE shows it right.
> Maybe there is problem with Illustrator which don't handle SVG correctly?
>
> Hillar
>
> 2011/3/23 Nik <n...@tdf.nikashsingh.com>
>
> > Hi Crew!
> >
> > I've just spent several hours trying to solve this problem and delved
> > deeper into transparency settings in vectors files than I knew existed (it
> > gets VERY deep) and created more than 10 files which produce varying degrees
> > of failed transparency. I'll keep at this tomorrow, but I've updated the
> > problem section with the problematic SVG as well as a link to a pristine
> > Illustrator file;
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif#Alpha_problem
> >
> > And in answer to Christopher, I wouldn't usually burden this list with
> > proprietary formats like PSD and AI but this is a special circumstance.
> > Besides, the /tool/ isn't important, it's the contribution that counts, not
> > the vendor. I'm pretty sure the developers wouldn't turn down a script
> > written using Aptana rather than Eclipse =)
> >
> >
> > On 3/23/2011 11:23 AM, Rob Cummings wrote:
> >
> >> There's a spray can tool in Inkscape that allows you to paint a pattern
> >> composed of a vector shape. You can change the parameters to randomize
> >> placement, scale, rotation, etc. Using one shiny new green-gadient
> >> triangle
> >> as the original pattern, it's actually quite simple to reproduce the
> >> scatter
> >> pattern. The only thing it doesn't do is randomize the alpha, though the
> >> original pattern shape can use a gradient with transparency values.  Using
> >> shapes with different overall alpha values could get us what we want.
> >>
> > Hi Rob,
> > I used similar tools in Illustrator to begin with, but to achieve a
> > harmonic result, it requires a lot of manual shifting and adjusting, it
> > actually took a lot of time to achieve a composition that sat well
> > (balanced+organic). In any case, the randomizing of Alpha is the important
> > part and the only problematic part so far. The vectors and placement are
> > intact, as are the shapes/colours/scale/rotation. Hopefully it won't come to
> > having to re-create the composition. I'll keep at it, if all else fails, I
> > can provide the vectors alone without alpha and we can layer them (in a way
> > that would be less effective than the current screening alpha, but is better
> > than nothing). Thanks for helping with this! =)
> >
> >> I can try a couple things, but it won't be until tomorrow morning (eastern
> >> US time).
> >>
> >> Rob
> >>
> > -Nik
> >
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