Hi Nik, *,

Am Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2011, 04:31:34 schrieb Nik:
(...)
> - Andreas: attention is a funny thing in Graphic Design, when trying to
> balance "size" with "empty-space" you have to remember that there is an
> inverse-bell-curve, where too much or too little empty space /attracts/
> attention and a "balanced" compromise makes people feel comfortable, but
> uninterested. For the logo I think we should go with this "boring"
> balance because like you say, the logo isn't the major player on that
> page, the Navigation is. But interesting to note in that principle, is
> that something SMALL, when surrounded by luxuriant empty space, catches
> attention. While I've never formalised that in any discussion on-list so
> far, I think that is the method LibO should employ in its branding
> language. It should become our mantra. Empty space (not necessarily
> /white/, but /negative/) is our friend.
> 

I played a bit around on my local box and made some changes to the css. I also 
changed the logo to - hopefully - the original. The search-bar is placed now 
right to 
the top-main-navbar. I changed the color of the heading to green.

The logo walked up the hill a bit to the top of the site. The height of the 
top-main-
navbar is smaller now.

> ...
> 
> Personally, if you don't mind my opinion, I would actually change the
> landing page quite a bit. An explanation IS essential, but if I were to
> land on an exentsions site, the MOST Important thing I'd like to see is
> a big fat search box or categorised index. Maybe some of the best-rated
> / most-popular / newest-addition extensions. I would like to see a
> prominent "add an extension" and information/interview with Extension
> developers.
> 

Hmm. If we want to get such search into the landing page, we had to make the 
Extension-Center (Plone Software Center) the default page (not tried it out 
yet) and 
add some content to it (special fields with some content: our current text; or 
text 
with links to longer explanations).

> And on a personal note, all of this constant emphasis on donation is
> really starting to change my impression of LibO. A LOT! We went from a
> philosophy-driven endeavour which emphasised its focus on freedom (both
> speech AND expense) which rarely requested money.... to a seemingly
> money-hungry enterprise that wants more donations - more donations -
> MORE DONATIONS!
> 
> I know donations are our lifeblood, so don't get me wrong, but I think
> we should be doing this in a much more elegant way than banner-ads /
> home-page-hugging mentions of donations and never-ending mentions of
> money. Firefox does quite well by emphasising it's "community of
> volunteers" which makes you feel like supporting them, rather than
> all-consuming "donate NOW" instructions. Again, just my humble, and
> always controversial, opinions and nothing more.

That's an issue that should be discussed on the website-list or on Foundation-
discuss-list. We need donations to run the services, because they eat up a lot 
of 
money (and not-payed time of volunteers: but therefor we need no money).

Regards,
Andreas
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