Hi ape, Christoph, On 1 March 2012 19:40, Christoph Noack <christ...@dogmatux.com> wrote: >> A.1 I agree, but the "Chart" had a green frame in the >> OpenOffice.org_Galaxy_ver.3.0. > > Also targets A.2, A.3. > > The basic decision we've made was to only highlight the most essential > document types and that led to only few colored application icons. The > main goal is to avoid too much mixture of color (frame) and additional > icons (the small graphic inside). A sub-goal is to establish the native > TDF / LibreOffice symbol - for many people TDF and LibreOffice are still > inexistent or very new ;-) > > Consequently, we do only serve 5 icons with colored frames to our users. > > For all other document types, icons with black borders are used. For > example, also the HTML document icon features a black border - although > it is opened in Writer. We also use a black border for the Master > Document - because it "only" embeds other ODT documents (and due to the > black border, Master Document icons and Writer Document icons can be > easily distinguished when using very small icons sizes). > > Concerning the differentiation between document icon and application > icon - there is none, because we estimated that it doesn't add any > value. People start the application in a Start or Applications menu (no > document icons to be seen here) and they mainly use documents when they > browse documents (no applications to be started here). So we help users > to get a straight connection if we avoid any differences ... > > Finally, personally I think these assumptions are still valid. But if > the goals changed or the team comes to a different conclusion, then its > surely time to update the icons. > >> A.3 I'll be back to the provost embodiment, it is easy to do. >> >> A.4 I think you're wrong. Two files (ODT and DOC, ODG and VSD, ODS and XLS >> etc) have the same name. They will be denoted by the same symbol. You can >> not define the eyes, "who is who," if Windows Explorer is turned off "Hide >> extensions for known file types" (see attachment). LibreOffice uses in its >> "Explorer" different *.png (images.zip) to ODF\MSO files and do not have >> this problem.
First, most users shouldn't see our custom file picker at all. For good reason – it's a copycat of the Windows 95 file picker. In the custom file picker, we indeed use different icons, for instance, in Tango we have the following (these are examples): * .od*/.ot* – the LibO icons * .xls/.doc/.ppt – generic Tango spreadsheet/text document/presentation icons * .txt – Oracle's colourless standard ODT icon ... since we probably don't want to use generic Tango icons in Windows Explorer, to me it sounds like a better to try to unify the icons in the Tango theme (to use the normal LibreOffice icons). Should I do that? > Hehe, concerning the last statement, then its a bug ;-) A bug in Windows' default options or a bug in LibreOffice? (And indepently of this: should we still try to fix it?) > Seriously, nobody had the time to provide numerous icons for the same > document type ... it might not only happen to MS Word files, but all > other Text related documents LibreOffice is able to handle (Works, Word > Pro, WordPerfect, ...). The main alternatives are: > * use the same icon for LibreOffice and foreign (equivalent) > document types > * use one icon for LibreOffice and a different icon for all > foreign (equivalent) document types > * use individual icons for all document types The cheapest way to do that is probably to add file extensions to the icons. I don't know if we want that. >> B. Windows_NT-6.x Explorer reduces itself on the desktop icon 256*256 to a >> size 96*96, if you are using the classic (windows) theme. Icons 256*256 >> applications LibreOffice blurred (see attachment). This led me to modify >> these figures. > > So, if I get it right, we need 96x96 icons, right? The question with that still is, if Vista/7 will accept the extra icon, I guess. Astron. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
