Will this involve new templates for Impress? Because Impress is severely lacking in the template department... Maybe we could send the call in e-mails to certain design groups involved with Linux to come with new templates (Numix, Mokka, Elementary, VDG...).
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Jan Holesovsky <ke...@collabora.com> wrote: > > Hi K-J, > > K-J LibreOffice píše v Ne 14. 12. 2014 v 18:57 +0100: > > > >>> 2) what categories do we define > > >> > > >> Authors of the templates propose the category, we'll then define the > > >> final categories according to the templates that arrive :-) > > > > Should we define some rules? E.g. branding or so? > > Specified rules should be adhered to. So every template which brokes the > > rules should not be voted on. > > Nope - we want to unleash the creativity :-) - and let's see what do we > get... > > > >>> 3) who decides/votes > > >> > > >> The Design team at one of the weekly hangouts. The decision process > > >> will be simple - for each template that arrives, either a general > > >> consensus on the given template, or it is not included for 4.4.0 (and > > >> can be re-evaluated for later inclusion). > > > > > > I had thought we would make it really inclusive (i.e. inviting everyone > > > to vote); is it not desirable? > > > > I don't think that it is a good and community friendly choice to vote at > > one of the weekly hangouts. I'm e.g. not able to attend. > > Please see my other mail (to Charles) for explanation. This is not to > exclude anybody, but to be able to decide in the short time we have. > > > The last big vote (4.0 branding) was (on my opinion) a real desaster: A > > hurry-up voting and discussing at Google+, stopped by BoD, after that > > voted at google docs (). The winning object broke the defined and > > branding rules (which is up to now not solved in a good way). > > I believe an overall branding is something completely different than > this - for the default branding, a larger consensus is necessary, and > needs the marketing people involved, indeed. > > But there will be more templates (we are not talking about the default > template you get when you start Writer) that you can choose from, so the > only criteria is that they are not offensive, and they are not utterly > ugly (and we can increasingly improve them too). > > > >>> 4) deadline and scheduling. > > >> > > >> Needs to happen in time for RC2 (beginning of January), so that there > > >> is still chance to do changes for RC3. Of course, if any good > > >> templates arrive later, they'll be still appreciated, and can be > > >> included in later versions (4.4.x). > > > > I don't think that we have to hurry so. We shouldn't do it. > > So far the problem that we have no templates included was completely > hidden by the terrible user experience to start document with a > template; so there were little complaining about the lack of the > templates. > > This is not the case any more with the new 4.4 feature that was a result > of GSoC - now we have the [Templates] button right in the start center, > and showing an empty list is much worse than showing 2-3 templates > there; and yes, I do hope that we'll get at least 2-3 good templates > even on the short notice :-) > > Definitely we can (and should!) do more for 4.4.1 - but we should at > least attempt to get as much as possible already for 4.4.0. > > Hope this makes some sense - and as explained in the other mail, don't > worry, your voice will be heard :-) Also I hope that you'll find some > time to design a template or two too, would be awesome to have something > from you. > > All the best, > Kendy > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
