On 10/18/2015 09:58 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Jonathan Roberts > <robertsthebr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> How does the math work by the way? I assumed it was exponential until >> now... > > https://snowdrift.coop/p/snowdrift/w/en/mechanism > > You pledge X per other patron. >
Actually, it's X per patron, not "other patron" The math is this simple: You pledge $1 per 1,000 patrons, so that means if there's 340 patrons, you donate $0.34. If there's 3,400 patrons, you donate $3.40. There's no formula to explain. It's that simple. We used to have a more complex formula for certain objectives, but the complexity was too cumbersome. There's nothing exponential here. The quadratic thing is simply this: 1,000 patrons * $1 = $1,000 but 5,000 patrons * $5 = $25,000. Basically, it's quadratic because it's linear increase in patrons * linear increase in per-patron donations. So the *total* is quadratic, but each patron's donation increases linearly. The key items are: "you pledge X per patron", "your pledge today will be X * Y given Y patrons", "your matching from others will be Z", the total from everyone is A" >> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Jonathan Roberts >> <robertsthebr...@gmail.com <mailto:robertsthebr...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> The math is unclear to me as well. I think it needs to be clear to >> the average viewer. >> >> I think Aaron's suggestion would be more clear as well. You could >> have a link on the page that goes to a page that explains the >> equation thoroughly for those who want it. >> >> Related question. How are we handling transfer fees for such small >> amounts of money? >> >> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Aaron Wolf <aa...@snowdrift.coop >> <mailto:aa...@snowdrift.coop>> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 10/18/2015 12:47 AM, Jacob Chapman wrote: >> > https://img.bi/#/RCmUlLW!XJcF_0gW1TKIEhMR59pFJQwpVPv_6YwlrJSRHI8n >> > >> > We really need to emphasize the matching aspect of pledges to >> encourage >> > patrons to pledge. >> > >> >> I agree, but I think the best presentation says basically, "at >> this >> time, you will add X, and the project will get Y more from >> everyone else >> in matching" or something to that effect, emphasizing the cost >> to you >> and the amount of matching more than just the total, although >> the total >> is worth showing too. >> >> I think the squared symbol is a bit confusing, we don't want >> to present >> it that way, and it's not how it works either. The matching is >> quadratic >> not exponential. >> >> >> > Also I suggest we use /mo rather than /mth. >> > >> >> Agreed, the site itself uses "mo" currently, although the >> design mockup >> is different. >> >> > Thanks, >> > Jacob >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Design mailing list >> > Design@lists.snowdrift.coop <mailto:Design@lists.snowdrift.coop> >> > https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design >> > >> >> -- >> Aaron Wolf Snowdrift.coop <https://snowdrift.coop> >> _______________________________________________ >> Design mailing list >> Design@lists.snowdrift.coop <mailto:Design@lists.snowdrift.coop> >> https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Design mailing list > Design@lists.snowdrift.coop > https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design > -- Aaron Wolf Snowdrift.coop <https://snowdrift.coop> _______________________________________________ Design mailing list Design@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design