See my answers inline (:o) Heikki),
Daniel
Mimi Yin wrote:
Detail view access enhancements to
calendar
Yes, I think
what's emerging is:
1. A need for
more than just 2 states of detail view, but
intermediate states between the summary display and the full-detail
view. Address book apps already do this, providing a "view-mode"
summary of contact info as well as a full detail view for
editing.
Maybe, I´ll have to
try and feel before answering this one
2. I think I
wouldn't mind reading email in the preview pane if
there was some 1-click way to shift the focus of the screen to the
detail view (thereby shortening the summary table view) and then
another 1-click way to refocus on the summary table view. It's the
pain of having to resize the splitter between the 2 panes constantly
that's so annoying. That's why for people with larger screens, the
vertical 3 pane layout is often preferred over the horizontal
split.
+1 Completely agree
As for Kiko, I
found the pop-up they had unusably big? It covered
up way too much of the calendar canvas and would definitely not be
something I'd want to keep open as I browsed other data. I'm thinking
that there should really be a smaller callout that summarizes the data
in a view-only fashion, something small enough that an user might
actually have multiple callouts open at the same time...and then a
separate way to click from the event in the calendar to a larger
detail view, perhaps by re-focusing the window on the detail view
underneath the calendar canvas.
From my point of
view the pop up is the same as the detail view, only a substitute not
meant to remain opened. So if it´s this I wouldn´t mind the size if
it´s only for new events or editing existing ones.
I agree on the smaller callouts and also the other possibilities that
arose last week of showing more info in not so a proportional way (your
e mail by the way).
Will have to
check out Joyent.
I only could see
the Quicktime Movie. It acted on me more as trigger than as a solution.
It´s like saying, this could be it.
Mimi :o)
PS: I don´t know
why my mail client keeps dropping the subject ¿?
At 10:55 AM
-0300 11/16/05, Daniel Vareika wrote:
Mimi:
I was happening to have the same idea.
Looking at the different AJAX calendars on the web, having signed up
for an account in Kiko, looking at Joyent
I noticed that a pop up window instead of the detailed view frees a
lot of real state that we are lacking in the calendar view.
I started thinking about it regarding other parts of Chandler and
looking at my personal user habits.
For example: Now I am using Thunderbird as my main mail program.
Although it is set up to three panes, The mails I want to read, I end
up double clicking on them so as to have a full view, and the mails I
write, they are already full in real state. When one is concentrated
reading and or writing one wasn´t to be distracted with other info
floating around in the screen.
+1 to pop ups
+1 to Quick Add Event (this one I have´t thought about it)
In Joyent (Explore:Features:RSS view demo) you can see a QT movie that
shows the interface really less cluttered with a lot of white space,
real state that could be use magnificently for the calendar and other
views.
In Ameritrade (Online Broker) you have the Snap
Ticket which resembles a lot the Quick add
Event.
I have personally used it and it´s great, plus when minimized it
uses really very little space.
This could be used either for Scooby and for Chandler.
I liked a lot the mock up´s. Later I will comment on them.
I wish I only had more time for OSAF!
Daniel
Mimi Yin wrote:
We've been discussing
"alternative" approaches to displaying detail view
information in the calendar both on the Chandler Design list and
for Scooby Web UI design.
One approach we are thinking of implementing for Scooby is to move
the detail view from the right side of the calendar to underneath.
This frees up more horizontal space to display event information in
the calendar itself.
We may also want to supplement the detail view with rollovers or
callouts that pop-up in the calendar, but we're deferring those kinds
of bells and whistles for now.
I've uploaded 2 *rough* mock-ups of what the detail view will look
underneath the calendar (scroll to the bottom).
The first shows the date/time/timezone/reccurrence information
concatenated into a single line of text optimized for human
readability. (See Daniel's wiki post: http://wiki.osafoundation.org/
bin/view/Journal/DateTimeRepresentation)
The second shows the date/time fields expanded for editing.
There is also a screenshot of Yahoo Calendar's "Quick Add Event"
(is that even English?) which also has a detail view underneath
the calendar.
http://wiki.osafoundation.org/bin/view/Journal/DetailViewOnBottom
**If the user has a "short window":
-We may want to "auto-shift" the focus of the browser window
down to the Detail view when the user d-clicks on the event
lozenge in the calendar
-We may then want to have a "Back to top" button in the
detail view to move the user back up to the main calendar
-The mock-ups I have now are shorter than 768 pixels
Mimi
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