no need to Cc me in: I'm subscribe to d-d-l. On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 16:02 +0200, Sebastian Pölsterl wrote: > > what do applets provide, nowadays, and are they even remotely useful? > > what can deskbar-applet provide that cannot be implemented with > > something that does not sit inside a 24x24 icon on the most valued piece > > of screen real estate? isn't a gnome-do approach equivalent to the > > deskbar-applet? why tomboy-applet is so special? it's basically a > > launcher with a custom context menu. also, starting up deskbar-applet > > *and* tomboy as applets on my panel causes my desktop more to start up > > on login; not great turn ons, especially when there are developers out > > there trying to get the boot-to-UI process down in the seconds range. > >
> I agree that the current applet paradigm is outdated and it doesn't do > well when you have a lot of applets or an applet that takes some time to > load. But those are the problems we want to solve, right? I'm not saying > that we should keep the whole applets system, but I want something > similar to it. why? why should something continuously live on my panel and occupy space? > I don't care if it's called applet or widget or whatever, > if it's in the panel or somewhere else. For me the idea of applets is > that you can access information/functionality with minimum effort. Let's > say deskbar-applet would be an application started from the menu. That > would make deskbar-applet useless, because it should help you starting > applications and doing tasks with less effort. Now if I have to start > deskbar-applet first, I can just open the application I want to in the > first place. then we don't need an icon, but we need something completely different; something that pops up (say) when you press F12; or something that comes up when I start typing on an empty workspace. I just don't see the need to have something constantly visible on a panel or on my screen, when it's all about user-initiated actions. the tomboy-applet doesn't need to stay in my notification area (why on earth does it stay in my notification area is another matter entirely, but let's overlook that for a second) when I don't need to write a note? why does it have to start when my desktop starts, when it can start when I do need to write a note and be unloaded afterwards? ciao, Emmanuele. -- Emmanuele Bassi, W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list