-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Emmanuele Bassi schrieb: > no need to Cc me in: I'm subscribe to d-d-l. > > On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 16:02 +0200, Sebastian Pölsterl wrote: > >>> what do applets provide, nowadays, and are they even remotely useful? >>> what can deskbar-applet provide that cannot be implemented with >>> something that does not sit inside a 24x24 icon on the most valued piece >>> of screen real estate? isn't a gnome-do approach equivalent to the >>> deskbar-applet? why tomboy-applet is so special? it's basically a >>> launcher with a custom context menu. also, starting up deskbar-applet >>> *and* tomboy as applets on my panel causes my desktop more to start up >>> on login; not great turn ons, especially when there are developers out >>> there trying to get the boot-to-UI process down in the seconds range. >>> > >> I agree that the current applet paradigm is outdated and it doesn't do >> well when you have a lot of applets or an applet that takes some time to >> load. But those are the problems we want to solve, right? I'm not saying >> that we should keep the whole applets system, but I want something >> similar to it. > > why? why should something continuously live on my panel and occupy > space? > Because you want to know which applets are currently running. In addition, applets like system monitor need to show up somewhere, otherwise they are useless.
>> I don't care if it's called applet or widget or whatever, >> if it's in the panel or somewhere else. For me the idea of applets is >> that you can access information/functionality with minimum effort. Let's >> say deskbar-applet would be an application started from the menu. That >> would make deskbar-applet useless, because it should help you starting >> applications and doing tasks with less effort. Now if I have to start >> deskbar-applet first, I can just open the application I want to in the >> first place. > > then we don't need an icon, but we need something completely different; > something that pops up (say) when you press F12; or something that comes > up when I start typing on an empty workspace. > > I just don't see the need to have something constantly visible on a > panel or on my screen, when it's all about user-initiated actions. the > tomboy-applet doesn't need to stay in my notification area (why on earth > does it stay in my notification area is another matter entirely, but > let's overlook that for a second) when I don't need to write a note? why > does it have to start when my desktop starts, when it can start when I > do need to write a note and be unloaded afterwards? > Keep in mind that not all applets require user interaction, some just show information and you don't have to interact with them at all (e.g. system monitor or weather applet). - -- Greetings, Sebastian Pölsterl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknsaDwACgkQ1ygZeJ3lLIfjPwCggi01Qx1YebODH5H44/K3VlDd wFoAoKccunKqZAcvp5Uuzkz8XUTJF0qc =nZbr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
