Am Fr., 26. Apr. 2019 um 19:11 Uhr schrieb Matthias Klumpp <matth...@tenstral.net>: > > Am Fr., 26. Apr. 2019 um 18:12 Uhr schrieb <mcatanz...@gnome.org>: > > I'm a little surprised that nobody has yet mentioned the elephant in > > the room. The definition of "git" is not very inclusive: > > [ ...] > > Please don't ready any of the statements above as an attempt to be > super-objective - I don't think that is possible, and I don't even > think objectivity can be the goal here, as the issue is so deeply tied > to individual opinions and experiences as well as cultural histories > and the languages one knows. That's why IMHO the "right" solution here > is actually ultimately what the community comes up with collectively, > and what feels right for us.
Sorry, I missed this thread and only now subscribed to the list. I agree with most of what Matthias said, except to me this is an issue of making technical changes for very wrong reasons. When it comes to making technical changes, one should care about those who are affected by the technical changes. This is why I care strongly enough to keep writing these emails: It is simply a really bad idea and I will pay the consequences. Plainly put: It is unfair and solves nothing. 0) It is problematic to work with hundreds of projects when they do not use the same branch name (translators like myself), but this time we want to make it consistent, so ... 1) Changing branch name for all the projects in GNOME will take time, some projects might lack maintainers and so on. Many people are involved. It won't become consistent easily, and meanwhile we only lose time. I.e.: See point 0). 2) Tomorrow some other word will fall out of grace and we will again have to take care not to offend anyone at any price. Word X is offensive in culture Y, what are the odds that we don't have a lot of potentially offensive stuff around? We gain /nothing/ by making this kind of change. 3) This only happens because we are touching on US sensibilities. Remember when it was brought up years ago that the foot logo is rude in South-East Asia and that maybe we should change it since it might be better for the GNOME brand there? Nothing was done. At least that point had one argument in favour: It affects users. But now US/Western/Anglocentric sensibilities are at stake, so we must change even though it has no positive effect. I frankly think that this hypersensitivity about slavery does more to offend than to include. It readily conjures a problem where none was. An important part of getting things to work in multicultural environments is to not see offense where none was implied. Best regards Ask > > Cheers, > Matthias > > -- > I welcome VSRE emails. See http://vsre.info/ > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
