Hi folks,

I just want to point out that this trash mechanism in Gnome was a huge 
problem for large multi-user systems, because it was constantly polling 
users' home directories in order to update status of the trash bin (e.g. 
what if somebody does an "rm" directly from a shell - the GUI needs to 
update). This doesn't scale well.

AFAIK OpenSolaris is *not* intended to exclusively target single-user 
systems like laptops. Although unfortunately we do have a number of 
impediments to larger systems at the moment we are working on overcoming 
those, and the single-user system model should be viewed only as a first 
step and absolutely not as a goal for the OpenSolaris desktop or system 
software.

We are currently working on migrating our Thin Client software to 
OpenSolaris, which will certainly require large multi-user support so 
let's please keep multi-user use in our plans as we go forward.

-Bob

Eugene Turkulevich wrote:
> Hi niall,
>
> yes, you're right, when we think in terms of big servers with large amount of 
> data storages, a lot of users and a lot of network mounts the only one way to 
> make it work is to use very simple mechanism as you describe: assume that 
> user have enough free space in home directory and copy all deleted files 
> there.
>
> But! OpenSolaris become available on the usual computers too, now it can be 
> used on home desktop system or even on notebooks (as I know, Toshiba will 
> sell some of their notebooks with OpenSolaris preinstalled), so, it's time to 
> think about limitations of desktop systems: not a lot of users, usually no 
> constant mounts, but limited disk space.
>
> For example, my first installation of OpenSolaris was made on 10Gb partition 
> (for rpool, so this is for entire system and user homes) with 300Gb of 
> storage for all other stuff (including download location). And my first 
> experience was deleting of several 1-2Gb files downloaded via Transmission, 
> which was finished with 'pool usage is more then 80%, all automatic snapshots 
> were deleted' (before I stop copying this 15Gb to home located trash folder 
> with 10Gb for entire partition). I even reported a bug for Transmission, but 
> together with developer we decide 'same as Nautilus' and close it.
>
> BTW, snapshots is not a god idea in this situation too: when user try to 
> reduce disk space usage, found a 10-20-30Gb of files to be deleted, and even 
> delete it, the only one way to free disk space is manually delete every 
> snapshot made with this files.
>
> That's why I propose to start thinking in terms of usual user, not as system 
> administrator of server with unlimited disk resources :)
>   


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