Ah, ok, that clears that up...

Thanks,

Darren.

Brian Cameron wrote:
> Darren:
> 
>> Hmm - the main issue that I'd have here how this would effect GDM? As I
>> remember, GDM had issues before where the font-cache was broken/out of date 
>> too.
>>
>> Handling it post-login won't help if you can't get that far...
> 
> Note that the new GDM 2.22 rewrite uses gnome-settings-daemon, so any
> fix that involves g-s-d being smarter about fonts would likely also
> benefit GDM going forward.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
>> Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>>> Just in case anyone here is interested in changes being proposed to the
>>> font management systems we get from the open source community.
>>>
>>>     -Alan Coopersmith-           alan.coopersmith at sun.com
>>>      Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: [Fontconfig] Font autoinstallation meeting
>>> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:06:51 -0400
>>> From: Behdad Esfahbod <behdad at behdad.org>
>>> To: Richard Hughes <rhughes at redhat.com>, Nicolas Mailhot 
>>> <nicolas.mailhot at gmail.com>
>>> CC: fontconfig <fontconfig at lists.freedesktop.org>, fedora-fonts-list
>>> <fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com>, gtk-i18n-list <gtk-i18n-list at 
>>> gnome.org>
>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Lets meet Monday June 9th 17:00 UTC in ##fonts on freenode to discuss
>>> font autoinstallation in Fedora.
>>>
>>> I've recently committed patches to GTK+ and gnome-settings-daemon (the
>>> latter not committed just yet, but expect to commit today or tomorrow)
>>> to detect fontconfig configuration changes and react to it [1].  By
>>> react, I mean:
>>>
>>>   - Make fontconfig reread its configuration, seeing newly installed
>>> fonts, changed configs, etc,
>>>   - Make Pango fontmap drop its fontset caches,
>>>   - Redraw all widgets.
>>>
>>> With these in place, you can install a font rpm and all running
>>> applications will pick it up withing 5 seconds.
>>>
>>> Next logical step is to detect when fonts are missing for some language,
>>> and let PackageKit offer installing them.  That's what I want to discuss
>>> at the meeting.
>>>
>>> To get us started, this is the very rough design I have in mind right
>>> now:
>>>
>>>
>>>   - Hook into PangoFcFontMap's load_fontset method, and if the font
>>> pattern for the first font in the just-loaded fontset does not cover the
>>> asked language, signal missing fonts for language.
>>>
>>>   - The signal will be propagated to PackageKit over D-BUS
>>>
>>>   - PackageKit will show a notification suggesting to install fonts for
>>> langauge.  In a further dialog it will list all font packages covering
>>> the missing language(s?) and let user choose which ones to install.
>>>
>>>
>>> Discussion:
>>>
>>>   - I don't like making Pango do much.  My previous idea was to add a
>>> missing-fonts hook in Pango that another module can hook into.  I don't
>>> like that idea much now.  Hooks are in general very unscalable in the
>>> long run.
>>>
>>>   - Here's another way to handle it:  I'm going to make some changes to
>>> PangoFontMap handling.  The part relevant here is that one can call
>>> pango_cairo_font_map_set_default() to change the default font map.
>>> Then:
>>>
>>>   - PackageKit-gnome will install a gtk-module that upon loading, gets
>>> the current pangocairo defaultfontmap, subclasses it anonymously (that's
>>> perfectly possible), overrides the load_fontset method, creates an
>>> instance of it, and sets it as the new default pangocairo fontmap.
>>>
>>>   - The hook then is responsible for using D-BUS or any other means
>>> (xsettings?!) to notify PackageKit of missing fonts and at that point
>>> I'm done :).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For this to work, it's easiest if font packages provided names like
>>> font-lang-fa, font-lang-fa_IR, font-lang-az_IR, etc.  We can develop a
>>> script to automatically generate that at package build time.  Fontconfig
>>> already has that list.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, further discussion during the meeting :).
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> behdad
>>>
>>> [1] http://mces.blogspot.com/2008/06/online-font-installation.html
>>>
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