On Sun, 25 May 2008, James Cornell wrote:

> X11 abstracts things and exponentially increases complexity, and in 
> addition it alone is probably the main problem with the UNIX desktop 
> experience.  Too many toolkits for X11, too many licenses, too many 
> badly engineered applications which don't integrate, and too many 
> extremists on all sides of the fractured X11 desktop war claiming 
> their WM is better, they all are horrid and so is X11.

Not having used KDE 4.0 and latest GNOME, I was almost ready to buy 
into your diatribe until I got to this bit about X11 being the main 
problem with the UNIX desktop experience.  That causes me to believe 
that most of the other stuff you said is likely dubious as well. 
Better luck next time.

Gtk+ and Qt are portable abstraction layers which remove X11 from the 
complexity equation.  In fact, they defeat much of what was previously 
known as X11 except for the ability to display a program remotely. 
However, sometimes they require special X11 server-side extensions to 
run efficiently, much as Windows Vista requires exotic video cards in 
order to be able to even move its mouse pointer efficiently.

Bob
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Bob Friesenhahn
bfriesen at simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/
GraphicsMagick Maintainer,    http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/


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