Vijay Upreti wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> The requirement I am putting forward need not have HAL database 
> association. As mentioned that most of the H/W device information can 
> be easily obtained using existing commands or teaking little bit more 
> with system to get the output as needed.
>
> I haven't yet tried gnome base device manager tool, but if the work is 
> exactly same as mentioned in the requirement then of course its going 
> to be a duplicated effort.
>
> Just to understand the roadmap for gnome-device-manager, is that 
> planned to be incorporated in the future Navada builds? or is it going 
> to be just an extra tool to play with? I am only aiming to have a 
> Navada based feature which can reach to larger user community due to 
> its simplicity and effectiveness.
Yes. Putting g-d-m into Nevada is our desire too. Strony and me did some 
investigation and made a simple prototype several month ago. Because we 
haven't enough resource, it was going slowly now. Anyway Strony is 
working hard for HAL improvement. Once Solaris HAL and 
gnome-device-manager GUI mature further, this tool is easily integrated. 
My idea is we should invest more resource to develop 
gnome-device-manager on HAL community and then port to Solaris. It's a 
good chance for you to participate in their archeticure design.

Thanks,
-Simon
>
>
> Do you have any demo for the gnome-device-manager?
>
> Vijay
> simon.zheng at sun.com wrote:
>> Hi Vijay,
>>
>> Thanks for your proposal. I'm totally agree with the importance of this
>> project. But I have some concerns.
>>
>> The current trend of UNIX desktop device management is based on HAL,
>> which is a well-designed hardware abstract layer independent of special
>> OS. 
>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/hal
>>
>> For OpenSolaris, Aterm and other guys has done a lot of job for porting
>> HAL to Solaris. Please see project page.
>> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/tamarack/
>>
>> The popular way is HAL stores all device info in its database, and
>> desktop applications operate device through HAL. More and more
>> application are doing like this, e.g. gnome-power-manager.
>>
>> Since HAL (Solaris-special backend) has considered a lot of
>> Solaris-special features, such as RBAC, auditing. If we develop a new
>> GUI tool without HAL, many jobs that HAL done have to repeat. I think
>> it's a backward. So I suggest we should think over again for this
>> proposal.
>>
>> Furthermore, HAL community has also made some effort for managing device
>> tool. Before HAL 0.5.9, a GUI tool called hal-device-manager is shipped
>> with HAL, which is able to list and update all devices info on system.
>> But unfortunately it can't add/remove device. So for this reason, a new
>> GUI called gnome-device-manager is created when HAL 0.5.10. This tool is
>> already available on our SFE repository. You can build and try.
>>
>> Currently we're trying to port gnome-device-manager to Solaris. Atem and
>> Strony from HAL team are working for supporting more Solaris devices in
>> HAL, and JDS team are getting involved in GUI development on HAL
>> community.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Simon
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 07:17 +0530, vijay upreti wrote:
>>   
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am submitting a one pager to have project proposal on Device Manager 
>>> tool. Aim is to reach to desktop users, who need to add, upgrade or 
>>> troubleshoot driver. Currently if you need to have these in place you 
>>> have command line options to get this done. The GUI will make it easy to 
>>> get this done.
>>>
>>> I appreciate your comments and views on the project one pager.
>>>
>>> Many thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Vijay Upreti
>>> Sun Microsystems India Pvt. Ltd.
>>>
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