On Friday 23 December 2005 17:33, Nat Friedman wrote:
> We'd like to make a splash with something that is largely functional.
> That way, the world will take notice of Xgl in a big way and Novell
> can get some credit for having been by far the principle sponsor of
> this development for more than a year.  I think this is fair, and it
> isn't very long for anyone to wait.

Yeah, I see how that makes sense from your perspective. Of course it 
does put some of us in a rather interesting situation. I fully 
understand that you want to make a splash and get some nice marketing. 
That's understandable. The problem is that you're effectively saying 
"no one can work on it. we're working on it. we'll be done when we'll 
be done and then you will be able to work on it. for now go and do 
something... else".  

At this point there is quite a few people who after 7.0 release are more 
than willing to spend some time on it. For example Dave Airlie started 
committing some code yesterday. And you know what I (and I'm pretty 
sure others, but I don't want to speak on behalf of everyone who wanted 
to work on Xgl) will be more than fine with David coming out and saying 
"you know what guys? i'd prefer to do this work myself. i don't need 
any help right now and i prefer to finish what i'm doing before letting 
others play with this code. I'll commit what i have in the coming 
<whatever>". He started the project I can fully respect his decision. 
What I'm not ok with is you, as a company, silently taking over 
development of what is not and never been your internal project. 

So there are two options, either we accept the fact that you're the only 
ones who can work on this for now or we start working on what we have 
in CVS effectively creating a fork. The first one implies our complete 
trust in your motives the other, given the very limited amount of 
people we have who can work on graphics, would be just a waste of 
resources. I'm sure you're aware of that, since that's what always 
happens when you internalize development of something that used to be 
developed in the open (unless of course you hire everyone who'd ever 
want to work on it). 

Personally, I waited for a while now, I don't mind waiting two more 
months to finally start working on this, but I would feel a lot better 
hearing what I mentioned above, not from you but from David.

Zack

-- 
militant agnostic: i don't know, and you don't know either.

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