On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Fabrice Desré <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 10/09/2015 01:37 PM, Etienne Segonzac wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Fabrice Desré <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Whoa. So people complained about using a dedicated IRC channel and > the > > answer is a private slack instead? > > > > > > Maybe complaining isn't the most efficient form of feedback after all > then. > > The point was that existing channels were good enough. Isn't that true? > I don't really have an opinion. The point is: we want designs to be shared and discussed earlier in the process. They could be tweeted by a @Horse_B2G account and it would *still* be progress! I'm perfectly fine with posting on a mailing list if the big attachments aren't getting constantly dropped. But the feedback should not be focused on what *not* to do. > > > And by the way, > > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Fabrice Desré <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > I don't know why we chose slack, and I was initially not really on > board > > either (irc's good enough, right?). But after using it since last > week I > > like it. It's actually pretty efficient at keeping track of proposals > > and getting people feedback. Way better than gdocs and etherpads > > scattered around, or unmaintained wiki pages, or semi-private email > > thread. > > > > > > * * * > > Nice out of context quote. That was during v3 ideation which was not > open to external contribution. As an internal tool it's not bad, but > it's terrible if we want to encourage community contribution. Even read > access is impossible. > Apparently you need to request an invite, that's not "impossible". That's friction. (And way less friction than attending a vidyo meeting BTW., but sadly nobody is arguing against those ;) ) Maybe removing that friction is not our priority right now, maybe it's premature optimization. How are we going to make a community-driven product if we can't even collaborate between teams? Whether you want it or not we're lead by example, Fabrice, and sharing and shipping should be facilitated and celebrated! "You're doing it wrong"-type comments are not the way to go. It doesn't cost much to remember that everybody is trying to do things right, and that a little encouragement in the right direction goes a long way.
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