> On Oct 15, 2015, at 8:48 AM, zbranie...@mozilla.com wrote:
> 
> On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 3:28:06 PM UTC+2, Christopher Lord wrote:
>> Startup time is hopefully resolved: 
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1210737
>> 
>> App grouping isn't going to happen for 2.5 in this homescreen.
> 
> Is there any way in which we could organize a hacking sprint and get it?

If you look at our blocker count you can see that there is no way we should be 
doing this. We need to finish 2.5 and everyone should be helping out with our 
release blockers.
UX is currently evaluating other forms of grouping as well (folders for 
example).


> 
> I totally understand what are the reasons for the rewrite, and I like the new 
> codebase. I believe it's great for the future of the app and ability of our 
> OS to evolve.
> 
> But, we just talked here about how we cannot *regress* user experience when 
> landing refactors. Music app has done tremendous amount of effort to bring 
> the Music-NGA to partity with Music-OGA and yet they got (imho very unfair) 
> treatment for short-term (under two weeks) performance regression.
> 
> Now, we are talking about removing one of the most fundamental pieces of how 
> people customize their phones for the whole 2.5 cycle!
> 

The replaceable homescreen feature is also part of 2.5. The new home screen 
will be privileged and in the Marketplace. We are not bound to our platform 
releases any more. Maybe we will have app grouping in the new home screen by 
the time someone ships 2.5.

> And as we can see in this thread there is clearly an interest from our 
> community to preserve this feature. I would hope we can get enough engineers 
> interested to help the team working on Homescreen with a patch.

Again, helping with our release blockers would be more appreciated. We would 
only land such a patch after we branch 2.5.

> 
> wrt. UX, if we could reproduce the same behavior as verticalhome has, we 
> could avoid having to design new UX for 2.5, and then for 2.5.Next we can 
> improve on it.
> 
> How does it sound?

We can work on grouping as soon as 2.5 is done and UX tell us where they want 
to go. If all goes well we can have grouping for our dogfooders in a few weeks 
again and even update the marketplace app for 2.5 if its a strict improvement.

-Gregor

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