I think this is very good input and discussion. We indeed need to
strengthen the message. I've been thinking along the following lines:

*The motivation for Connected Devices and IoT*

*The Internet of Things is the next chapter of the Internet. It will expand
the Internet to new, exciting places and will revolutionize the way we
interact with the world around us. It is very important that the Internet
remains open and accessible. We want end users to have the freedom and
security to enjoy it fully. Our principles
(https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/
<https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/>) are thus as impactful as
ever! Our mission is to enrich people’s lives, protect their privacy, and
help the Internet stay an open and exciting platform for us all!*

*......*
*In all our projects, we will put the end user first. We aim to deliver an
uncompromising, user first, Web-centric experience to end users. We will
create and make available a set of products and platforms that promote the
enjoyment, freedom, and security of the new Internet including the Internet
as we know it today plus the Internet of Things.*
*....*


*The Internet of Things is a new frontier with a lot of promise but also
with its challenges. On one hand, there are not yet prevailing business
models, no established products or platforms, and not even a solid end user
pull. But, on the other hand, technologies are developing fast, companies
are making big investments, and focus in many of them is clearly on the
Internet of things. It is exciting to envision all the new experiences this
connected world will bring us while keeping in mind the new challenges that
will come in privacy and security. It is indeed this intersection of
opportunities and challenges that makes us firmly believe that it is the
right time for Mozilla to make a strong entry to the Internet of Things ---
to the next chapter of the Internet around us."*
As I'm _clearly_ not a marketing person and also a man of too may words :-)
, I've asked Porfirio to to start to work on this. I suggest we keep him
closely in the loop. I believe we need to use element presented in this
discussion to articulate why IoT is so important for Mozilla and for Web.
But then, even more importantly, we need to deliver experiences and
platforms that have impact.

--Ari

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Michiel de Jong <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:25 PM, Katie Caldwell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> + cd allstaff
>>
>> tif, I think this is the list you meant to include :)
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:16 PM, David Flanagan <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's my take on this important question:
>>>
>>> Our mission is to "promote openness, innovation and opportunity on the
>>> Web". Neither IoT in general nor the connected home more specifically is
>>> today part of the open web. But if we move quickly and aggressively enough
>>> into this immature market, we may have the opportunity to shape the
>>> technology, plant our flag and claim the connected home as part of the open
>>> web. And if we can pull this off, then our mission and manifesto become
>>> very relevant.
>>>
>>>
> Yes, good point, and personally I like the concept of:
>
> Firefox browser -> push the open web of documents (and services)
> FxOS smartphone -> push the open web of (client-side/offline-first)
> applications
> Connected Devices projects -> push the open web of things
>
> But I do feel it relates to only point d) in Jesus Muñoz's list
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.fxos/uuJeHb8CBDM/2koEMbAUCQAJ
> and IMHO there is more to cover than just the (in itself important) point
> of using web technology to make the IoT space more open.
>
> For instance, what would be the IoT-specific equivalent of goals like
> tracking protection, private browsing, and end-to-end encryption? The link
> to http://iotmanifesto.org/ from Jesus's post also has some interesting
> points in that respect, maybe we can use some of them as well, as part of a
> more Mozilla-specific list.
>
>
> My 2ct,
> Michiel.
>
>
> I think this is the same thing we tried to do in the smartphone market,
>>> but this time we've picked an industry segment that is not already so
>>> mature that it is hard to break in to.
>>>
>>>   David
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Tiffanie Shakespeare <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> + connected devices
>>>>
>>>> As part of the innovation process, we are asked to answer "why
>>>> Mozilla?". Something I've been struggling with while ideating is: How
>>>> does IoT and the connected home fit into our mission and values? Answering
>>>> this question would help frame our discussion and produce better solutions.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:04 AM, Michiel de Jong <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> The mission of Connected Devices is "to deliver an uncompromising,
>>>>> User first, web centric experience via Connected Devices" (see
>>>>> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Connected_Devices).
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to get a more precise idea of what we mean by this. What
>>>>> are the pain points? For example:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Keeping your data under your control
>>>>> * Security
>>>>> * Web apps over native apps
>>>>> * Interoperability
>>>>> * Inclusivity/Localization
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we can add a link to a wiki page about this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My 2ct,
>>>>> Michiel.
>>>>>
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>> Portland, Oregon  •  IRC: KatieC
>>
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