Hi,
Thanks for the email. I stand corrected ;-)
Well I guess I will just have to wait until Eric Longman bails us out of
trouble again ;-0
Regards,
Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "wholesaleurl.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 3:00 PM
Subject: Re[8]: Win32 Perl Modules
>
> Friday, July 27, 2001, 11:11:50 AM, you wrote:
>
> > I agree with most everything you have mentioned but have one question...
If
> > you have tested this version on a Win32 platform I imagine you had to
> > compile the Perl modules for the Win32 platform and thus must has
generate
> > .ppm packages to get the version to work with the standard Win32 Perl
> > platform which is ActiveState.
>
> Compiling the modules does not create .ppm packages. These are
> separate operations.
>
> > Can you tell me how this was done and maybe provide the compiled modules
for
> > easy installation which seems to be the goal of the OpenSRS effort to
make
> > the system as easy as possible to install.
>
> I grabbed the cygwin package which gave me a compiler for Win32.
> then, after untarring the modules I downloaded from CPAN, I did the
> following in the directory where the module was untarred:
>
> perl Makefil.PL
> make
> make install
>
> This installed the perl module for me.
>
> > I also do not feel this is "special treatment" as these problems are not
> > there for other platforms so there is not reason why they should be
there
> > for the Win32 platform. In other words if the UNIX platform already has
the
> > perl modules available without having to compile them then so should the
> > Win32 platform. This would then make it even ground for the
installation to
> > work the same for both platforms out of the box.
>
> What I did above is the exact same thing you have to do on a Unix
> system. I didn't mean for "special treatment" to sound bad. I just
> meant that it is indeed the same for both platforms as it stands
> today. It so happens that most Unix systems come with gcc or some
> sort of a compiler while on Win32, you would likely have to install a
> C compiler first.
>
> To be honest, I don't know what is involved [yet] with making
> standard PMs into PPMs. Hopefully it isn't too tough and I can get
> them together though it sounds like Longman is working on it
> already.:)
>
> -tom
>
> > With kind regards,
> > Ben
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "wholesaleurl.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 1:48 PM
> > Subject: Re[6]: Win32 Perl Modules
>
>
> >>
> >> Friday, July 27, 2001, 9:16:58 AM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> > I think these modules need to be .ppm to clean up the process as I
tried
> > to
> >> > do exactly what you mentioned and successfully installed the CPAN and
> > the
> >> > modules but its still not activestate .ppm recognized.
> >>
> >> You're right, they will not be recognized automatically as a PPM by
> >> grabbing the CPAN module. But the end goal is to install the modules
> >> and the CPAN will allow you to do it. Or, of course, you can compile
> >> them directly after downloading as well.
> >>
> >> > I believe that the new OpenSRS client should be accessible to all
> > platforms
> >> > just as the previous versions were. In this way all OpenSRS
resellers
> > have
> >> > the best possible opportunity to implement the new code without the
> > current
> >> > problem of finding and compiling these modules.
> >>
> >> This requirement exists for all platforms, not just Win32. In fact,
> >> requiring the PPM be available is really asking for special treatment
> >> in that regard. I don't blame you at all for wanting that but it is
> >> a distinction. The PMs are available for all platforms and all need
> >> to download/compile them. All need the CPAN module for the installer
> >> to work (if you do not already have the modules installed).
> >>
> >> > Win2K and Unix, etc. are all equally important since the idea is that
> > all
> >> > resellers have access and not just non Win32 resellers.
> >>
> >> See above, I totally agree.
> >>
> >> > To me it would make sense to rectify this oversight to ensure that
> > everyone
> >> > who has built a business around the OpenSRS system has a secure
> > future...
> >> > even us Win2K people. ;-)
> >>
> >> See above above. And, you should know that the goal is to make it as
> >> easy as possible on folks, Unix and Win32 environments. This means
> >> that if at all possible there will be a special method or
> >> pre-compiled modules or whatever for the Win32 folks which will
> >> negate the need for cygwin, having to get the modules from CPAN, etc.
> >> For now, it appears to be equal across the board. There's just
> >> nothing special for Win32, *yet*.
> >>
> >> And threads like this is what the beta period is all about. All of
> >> the kinks and needs and wants should be worked out (as much as
> >> reasonably possible) based on the posts to this list. So keep 'em
> >> coming!
> >>
> >> Laters,
> >> -tom
> >>
> >> > Just my 2 cents worth.
> >>
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Benjamin Saenz
> >>
> >>
> >> > With regards,
> >> > Benjamin Saenz
> >>
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: "wholesaleurl.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 12:02 PM
> >> > Subject: Re[4]: Win32 Perl Modules
> >>
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Friday, July 27, 2001, 6:34:34 AM, you wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> IF you do not have it already, you can get it here:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=CPAN
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> -tom
> >> >>
> >> >> > Where can I get the CPAN module. I currently have Active State
628.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > Ben
> >> >>
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> > To: "JS Schiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> > Cc: "'wholesaleurl.com'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 2:40 AM
> >> >> > Subject: Re[2]: Win32 Perl Modules
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thursday, July 26, 2001, 10:04:01 PM, you wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I actually installed it on a WinME box without a problem. It
was
> >> >> >> just a test so it was/is the latest version of Perl from
> > activestate.
> >> >> >> I don't know if earlier versions came with the CPAN module but
the
> >> >> >> latest version does. I used this, rather than the typical PPM
> > method
> >> >> >> recommended by AS. This is because there just aren't packages
> >> >> >> (that I can find) for all of the modules you need via PPM. But
> > they
> >> >> >> will compile on a win32 platform.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Once you install the CPAN module, the following from the
> > commandline
> >> >> >> should work:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> perl -MCPAN -e shell
> >> >> >> cpan> install Your::Package (replace your module as needed
after
> >> >> >> each install).
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> As I recall, the 'make test' failed on a couple of them so the
cpan
> >> >> >> module didn't want to do the 'make install'. This is a cpan
issue
> >> >> >> which likely has a way around it (like forcing an install even
if a
> >> >> >> make test fails) but for now. because I don't know what that
'way'
> > is,
> >> >> >> the manual method works too. If this is the case for you,
you'll
> > need
> >> >> >> to unpack the module and do something like:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> perl Makefile.pl
> >> >> >> make
> >> >> >> make install
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Which reminds me, you'll want to be sure and have the cygwin
pack
> >> >> >> which has a compiler, gzip, etc. which you'll need for these
> >> >> >> operations. I have provided links to the various modules
directly
> >> >> >> from CPAN below, as well as the link to get your cygwin stuff:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Get and install this first if you don't have it:
> >> >> >> http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> And then the modules:
> >> >> >> http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Crypt-HCE_SHA
> >> >> >> http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Crypt-CBC
> >> >> >> http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Digest-SHA1
> >> >> >> http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Data-Dumper
> >> >> >> http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Date-Pcalc
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Ummm, I think that was it. To sum up:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 1. I unpacked the opensrs-sf package
> >> >> >> 2. Downloaded/installed cygwin (gcc, gzip, etc.)
> >> >> >> 2. Ran ./install.pl
> >> >> >> 3. Couple of the modules failed so I installed those manually
> >> >> >> 4. Moved the CGIs to a Web-accessbile directory
> >> >> >> 5 Finished.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Actually, between 3 and 4 I reran the installer to be sure that
> >> >> >> everything worked. It does keep your current values so you
should
> > be
> >> >> >> able to just hit "Enter" along the way so you can verify the
> > modules
> >> >> >> are dialed in.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Laters,
> >> >> >> -tom
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > I would like to second that 'please remember the win32 environ'
> >> >> >> > sentiment for those of us who, for our own political/policy
> > reasons,
> >> >> >> > have Win2k laps to run our PERL dev locally. Telnet echo on a
> > modem
> >> > is
> >> >> >> > yucky.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Will someone let me know if they *do* find / repurpose them?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Scott
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > On
> >> >> >> > Behalf Of wholesaleurl.com
> >> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 7:46 PM
> >> >> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> >> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> >> > Subject: Win32 Perl Modules
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > I have emailed Paul Sisson the developer and we have had
several
> >> >> >> > discussions about the perl modules which are currently not
> > available
> >> > for
> >> >> >> > the Win32 Perl (ActiveState) platform.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Although he has sent me the following links, none of them are
> >> > compiled
> >> >> >> > for the Win32 environment:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Crypt::HCE_SHA - not there
> >> >> >> >
http://velocity.activestate.com/code/cpan/c/cr/Crypt-HCE_SHA.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Crypt::CBC - not there
> >> >> >> > http://velocity.activestate.com/code/cpan/c/cr/Crypt-CBC.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Digest::SHA1 - not there
> >> >> >> > http://velocity.activestate.com/code/cpan/d/di/Digest-SHA1.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Data::Dumper - not there
> >> >> >> > http://velocity.activestate.com/code/cpan/d/da/Data-Dumper.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Date::Pcalc - not there
> >> >> >> > http://velocity.activestate.com/code/cpan/d/da/Date-Pcalc.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Is there anyone which has the name and location of a ppm
> > repository
> >> > with
> >> >> >> > the following perl modules:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Crypt::HCE_SHA - not there
> >> >> >> > Crypt::CBC - not there
> >> >> >> > Digest::SHA1 - not there
> >> >> >> > Data::Dumper - not there
> >> >> >> > Date::Pcalc - not there
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Without these the OpenSRS system will not work under the Win32
> >> >> >> > environment and CPAN does not have them on their repository
that I
> >> > can
> >> >> >> > find them.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > With regards,
> >> >> >> > Benjamin Saenz
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
