Friday, July 27, 2001, 12:08:16 PM, you wrote:
> Well I guess I will just have to wait until Eric Longman bails us out of
> trouble again ;-0
That's a bummer. Is there a reason why you can't install the cygwin
package and then install from the DOS prompt? I didn't realize
(though Lynn corrected me) that the WinX world was so different.
Glad to know... and thanks for the info as to what you are delaing
with.
-tom
> Regards,
> Ben
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "wholesaleurl.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 3:00 PM
> Subject: Re[8]: Win32 Perl Modules
>>
>> Friday, July 27, 2001, 11:11:50 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> > I agree with most everything you have mentioned but have one question...
> If
>> > you have tested this version on a Win32 platform I imagine you had to
>> > compile the Perl modules for the Win32 platform and thus must has
> generate
>> > .ppm packages to get the version to work with the standard Win32 Perl
>> > platform which is ActiveState.
>>
>> Compiling the modules does not create .ppm packages. These are
>> separate operations.
>>
>> > Can you tell me how this was done and maybe provide the compiled modules
> for
>> > easy installation which seems to be the goal of the OpenSRS effort to
> make
>> > the system as easy as possible to install.
>>
>> I grabbed the cygwin package which gave me a compiler for Win32.
>> then, after untarring the modules I downloaded from CPAN, I did the
>> following in the directory where the module was untarred:
>>
>> perl Makefil.PL
>> make
>> make install
>>
>> This installed the perl module for me.
>>
>> > I also do not feel this is "special treatment" as these problems are not
>> > there for other platforms so there is not reason why they should be
> there
>> > for the Win32 platform. In other words if the UNIX platform already has
> the
>> > perl modules available without having to compile them then so should the
>> > Win32 platform. This would then make it even ground for the
> installation to
>> > work the same for both platforms out of the box.
>>
>> What I did above is the exact same thing you have to do on a Unix
>> system. I didn't mean for "special treatment" to sound bad. I just
>> meant that it is indeed the same for both platforms as it stands
>> today. It so happens that most Unix systems come with gcc or some
>> sort of a compiler while on Win32, you would likely have to install a
>> C compiler first.
>>
>> To be honest, I don't know what is involved [yet] with making
>> standard PMs into PPMs. Hopefully it isn't too tough and I can get
>> them together though it sounds like Longman is working on it
>> already.:)
>>
>> -tom
>>
>> > With kind regards,
>> > Ben
>>
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "wholesaleurl.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 1:48 PM
>> > Subject: Re[6]: Win32 Perl Modules
>>
>>
>> >>
>> >> Friday, July 27, 2001, 9:16:58 AM, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I think these modules need to be .ppm to clean up the process as I
> tried
>> > to
>> >> > do exactly what you mentioned and successfully installed the CPAN and
>> > the
>> >> > modules but its still not activestate .ppm recognized.
>> >>
>> >> You're right, they will not be recognized automatically as a PPM by
>> >> grabbing the CPAN module. But the end goal is to install the modules
>> >> and the CPAN will allow you to do it. Or, of course, you can compile
>> >> them directly after downloading as well.
>> >>
>> >> > I believe that the new OpenSRS client should be accessible to all
>> > platforms
>> >> > just as the previous versions were. In this way all OpenSRS
> resellers
>> > have
>> >> > the best possible opportunity to implement the new code without the
>> > current
>> >> > problem of finding and compiling these modules.
>> >>
>> >> This requirement exists for all platforms, not just Win32. In fact,
>> >> requiring the PPM be available is really asking for special treatment
>> >> in that regard. I don't blame you at all for wanting that but it is
>> >> a distinction. The PMs are available for all platforms and all need
>> >> to download/compile them. All need the CPAN module for the installer
>> >> to work (if you do not already have the modules installed).
>> >>
>> >> > Win2K and Unix, etc. are all equally important since the idea is that
>> > all
>> >> > resellers have access and not just non Win32 resellers.
>> >>
>> >> See above, I totally agree.
>> >>
>> >> > To me it would make sense to rectify this oversight to ensure that
>> > everyone
>> >> > who has built a business around the OpenSRS system has a secure
>> > future...
>> >> > even us Win2K people. ;-)
>> >>
>> >> See above above. And, you should know that the goal is to make it as
>> >> easy as possible on folks, Unix and Win32 environments. This means
>> >> that if at all possible there will be a special method or
>> >> pre-compiled modules or whatever for the Win32 folks which will
>> >> negate the need for cygwin, having to get the modules from CPAN, etc.
>> >> For now, it appears to be equal across the board. There's just
>> >> nothing special for Win32, *yet*.
>> >>
>> >> And threads like this is what the beta period is all about. All of
>> >> the kinks and needs and wants should be worked out (as much as
>> >> reasonably possible) based on the posts to this list. So keep 'em
>> >> coming!
>> >>
>> >> Laters,
>> >> -tom
>> >>
>> >> > Just my 2 cents worth.
>> >>
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Benjamin Saenz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > With regards,
>> >> > Benjamin Saenz
>> >>
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > To: "wholesaleurl.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 12:02 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re[4]: Win32 Perl Modules
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Friday, July 27, 2001, 6:34:34 AM, you wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> IF you do not have it already, you can get it here:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=CPAN
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> -tom
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Where can I get the CPAN module. I currently have Active State
> 628.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> > Ben
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> > To: "JS Schiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> > Cc: "'wholesaleurl.com'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 2:40 AM
>> >> >> > Subject: Re[2]: Win32 Perl Modules
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thursday, July 26, 2001, 10:04:01 PM, you wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I actually installed it on a WinME box without a problem. It
> was
>> >> >> >> just a test so it was/is the latest version of Perl from
>> > activestate.
>> >> >> >> I don't know if earlier versions came with the CPAN module but
> the
>> >> >> >> latest version does. I used this, rather than the typical PPM
>> > method
>> >> >> >> recommended by AS. This is because there just aren't packages
>> >> >> >> (that I can find) for all of the modules you need via PPM. But
>> > they
>> >> >> >> will compile on a win32 platform.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Once you install the CPAN module, the following from the
>> > commandline
>> >> >> >> should work:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> perl -MCPAN -e shell
>> >> >> >> cpan> install Your::Package (replace your module as needed
> after
>> >> >> >> each install).
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> As I recall, the 'make test' failed on a couple of them so the
> cpan
>> >> >> >> module didn't want to do the 'make install'. This is a cpan
> issue
>> >> >> >> which likely has a way around it (like forcing an install even
> if a
>> >> >> >> make test fails) but for now. because I don't know what that
> 'way'
>> > is,
>> >> >> >> the manual method works too. If this is the case for you,
> you'll
>> > need
>> >> >> >> to unpack the module and do something like:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> perl Makefile.pl
>> >> >> >> make
>> >> >> >> make install
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Which reminds me, you'll want to be sure and have the cygwin
> pack
>> >> >> >> which has a compiler, gzip, etc. which you'll need for these
>> >> >> >> operations. I have provided links to the various modules
> directly
>> >> >> >> from CPAN below, as well as the link to get your cygwin stuff:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Get and install this first if you don't have it:
>> >> >> >> http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> And then the modules:
>> >> >> >> http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Crypt-HCE_SHA
>> >> >> >> http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Crypt-CBC
>> >> >> >> http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Digest-SHA1
>> >> >> >> http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Data-Dumper
>> >> >> >> http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Date-Pcalc
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Ummm, I think that was it. To sum up:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 1. I unpacked the opensrs-sf package
>> >> >> >> 2. Downloaded/installed cygwin (gcc, gzip, etc.)
>> >> >> >> 2. Ran ./install.pl
>> >> >> >> 3. Couple of the modules failed so I installed those manually
>> >> >> >> 4. Moved the CGIs to a Web-accessbile directory
>> >> >> >> 5 Finished.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Actually, between 3 and 4 I reran the installer to be sure that
>> >> >> >> everything worked. It does keep your current values so you
> should
>> > be
>> >> >> >> able to just hit "Enter" along the way so you can verify the
>> > modules
>> >> >> >> are dialed in.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Laters,
>> >> >> >> -tom
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > I would like to second that 'please remember the win32 environ'
>> >> >> >> > sentiment for those of us who, for our own political/policy
>> > reasons,
>> >> >> >> > have Win2k laps to run our PERL dev locally. Telnet echo on a
>> > modem
>> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > yucky.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Will someone let me know if they *do* find / repurpose them?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Scott
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >> > On
>> >> >> >> > Behalf Of wholesaleurl.com
>> >> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 7:46 PM
>> >> >> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >> >> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >> >> > Subject: Win32 Perl Modules
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Hi,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > I have emailed Paul Sisson the developer and we have had
> several
>> >> >> >> > discussions about the perl modules which are currently not
>> > available
>> >> > for
>> >> >> >> > the Win32 Perl (ActiveState) platform.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Although he has sent me the following links, none of them are
>> >> > compiled
>> >> >> >> > for the Win32 environment:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Crypt::HCE_SHA - not there
>> >> >> >> >
> http://velocity.activestate.com/code/cpan/c/cr/Crypt-HCE_SHA.html
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Crypt::CBC - not there
>> >> >> >> > http://velocity.activestate.com/code/cpan/c/cr/Crypt-CBC.html
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Digest::SHA1 - not there
>> >> >> >> > http://velocity.activestate.com/code/cpan/d/di/Digest-SHA1.html
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Data::Dumper - not there
>> >> >> >> > http://velocity.activestate.com/code/cpan/d/da/Data-Dumper.html
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Date::Pcalc - not there
>> >> >> >> > http://velocity.activestate.com/code/cpan/d/da/Date-Pcalc.html
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Is there anyone which has the name and location of a ppm
>> > repository
>> >> > with
>> >> >> >> > the following perl modules:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Crypt::HCE_SHA - not there
>> >> >> >> > Crypt::CBC - not there
>> >> >> >> > Digest::SHA1 - not there
>> >> >> >> > Data::Dumper - not there
>> >> >> >> > Date::Pcalc - not there
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Without these the OpenSRS system will not work under the Win32
>> >> >> >> > environment and CPAN does not have them on their repository
> that I
>> >> > can
>> >> >> >> > find them.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > With regards,
>> >> >> >> > Benjamin Saenz
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
