Frank,
Yeah, I guess its better to just leave it the
way it is. I haven't had many problems with the current whois.
The primary real pain is still: DROA
Did Verisign stop sending out those marketing billing notices?
I heard they got sued to BulkRegister, and the
judge ordered an injunction to stop Verisign from
sending the notices. The judge also believed that
it was a misleading marketing tactic and ruled in
favor of bulkregister.
I don't know whether this injunction
only applies to BulkRegister customers or for
everyone's customers.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020514/wr_nm/tech_domain
s_dc_1
Jonathan Lee
Tech Manager
415-682-3859
http://123cheapdomains.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Michlick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 6:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Ross Wm. Rader
Subject: RE: whois changes
Jonathan,
Thank you for your suggestions - these are very close to my ideas, and
others
have been doing similar things for a while already.
Of course this would only apply to the web-whois, but I also think it's
essential to keep the 'normal' whois output the same. Of course we would
like to
prevent whois-harvesting, but would this really prevent it? And in the end
we
don't really want to keep people from transfering their names away either
(if
other registrars end up having problems parsing the admin-contact from our
whois), even though we would of course like them to stay.
I will also check into the mailing list bit - what address did you send to?
Regards,
/Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 23:14
To: Ross Wm. Rader
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: whois changes
Frank,
I've been trying to post feedback to the Development list
lately, but my post are not showing up.
Can you check into it?
As to the whois predictabilty issue that Ross brought up,
I don't believe altering the predictability of the
whois will be able to stop harvestors. It will
just make everything harder for OpenSRS resellers
who use the WHOIS for legitimate purposes, like RSP to RSP
transfers.
However, there may be a better method at
preventing high speed harvesting.
How about requiring users to enter in
a opensrs generated five digit
gif code before they can preview the whois output.
Steps:
1. user makes whois query for domain.
2. the domain is entered into the database and assigned a random
5 digit gif that is displayed.
3. The user is asked to enter in the 5 digit gif before being
able to see the whois output.
4. The user enters in the 5 digit gif code, and gets to
see the whois output.
5. The 5 digit code associated with that domains whois session is then
expired after 1 minute.
Jonathan Lee
Tech Manager
415-682-3859
http://123cheapdomains.com
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Ross Wm. Rader
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:16 PM
To: Dev-List@Opensrs. Org
Subject: Re: whois changes
I think a more interesting question is what is the value of having
predictable output?
The reason I ask is that one of the anti-harvesting strategy that we've
contemplated is a randonly generated output (ie - sometimes with comma's,
sometimes not, sometimes admin up top, sometimes down below)...etc...
If predictability is highly valued, then I'd like to hear more...
Hrm...
-rwr
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Christopher Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "OpenSRS dev-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:31 PM
Subject: RE: whois changes
> Well, they changed...
>
> Not sure what to say about that. It's not our policy to announce whois
> changes, it's a public service that's offered by mandate, and it's "take
it
> as it is"
>
> Hrm...
>
> Charles Daminato
> OpenSRS Product Manager
> Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christopher Hicks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: May 29, 2002 3:29 PM
> > To: Charles Daminato
> > Cc: OpenSRS dev-list
> > Subject: RE: whois changes
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 29 May 2002, Charles Daminato wrote:
> > > Registrar of Record is by ICANN requirement:
> > > http://www.icann.org/registrars/ra-agreement-17may01.htm#3.3
> > > Specifically line item 3.3.1.3:
> > > 3.3.1.3 The identity of Registrar (which may be provided through
> > > Registrar's website);
> >
> > Petty bureaucrats. Sheesh.
> >
> > > As for the comma, afaik that was always there *hrm....*
> >
> > Nope. I can show you diff's of whois from yesterday morning and this
> > morning for the same domain which has had no changes of any sort.
> >
> > --
> > </chris>
> >
> > There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to make
> > it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the other way
> > is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies.
> > - - C.A.R. Hoare
> >
>
