Also .. this is not a private list .. So of course if you have any doubts - use the past private list of addresses to raise any concerns (that will be our private@ equivalent for now).
J. On 2026/05/25 06:05:13 Jarek Potiuk wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I’m forwarding this from our private chat and included the history below so > we keep everyone’s thoughts in one place. > > I’m excited to share that three wonderful ASF members would like to join > us: Richard Zowalla, who works on similar initiatives at Fraunhofer; Rémy > Maucherat, a Tomcat PMC member exploring local LLMs; and Coty Sutherland, > also from Tomcat and part of their security team. > > They are all fantastic "doers" who truly embody the spirit of our community > criteria. Since the resolution timeline is tight, I’ll plan to add these > three gentlemen to the roster unless anyone has concerns. I’ll also check > in with Sander regarding the final timing. > > Looking forward to growing this together! > > Warmly, > Jarek > > > ------- > > Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> > Fri, May 22, 5:50 PM (3 days ago) > to Amogh, Andrew, Vincent, Buğra, Jean-Baptiste, Yeonguk, André, Matt, > Piotr, Elad, [email protected], Justin, Paul, [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], Vincent, Shahar, > Ismaël, Zili, [email protected], Calvin, Rich, Mike, Craig > > Hello here, > > I do not want to wait for the mailing list to be created (up to 24 hrs), so > I start important question here. > > Following the (a bit promotional ;) Magpie campaign, I'm starting to get > questions like, "Can I still join?" > > I will check for any formal constraints on adding new people to the roster > before voting —specifically, whether action taken before the meeting must > be strictly based on the submitted resolution, if we can still amend the > resolution, and whether it will impact the timeline. > > But assuming we can still add people I have at least one new candidate who > reached out: Richard Zowalla (https://github.com/apache/comdev/pull/2)—whom > many of you know :).. > > So far I have the following criteria (but I think it's time we discuss > "our" criteria - likely for the future): > > * People I know who focus on ASF ways and have proven experience in working > with their PMCs on DevEx, Maintainership and generally "being on the ground" > > * People I personally know who are curious, learning agentic skills and > starting to use them for their job, but who have also done a lot to spread > the word, teach, and enthuse others > > * People who have already contributed to Magpie in various ways > > * People in the ASF who actively work (on the ground, not just at the > decision-making level only) in other similar ASF initiatives. We actively > want to cooperate with other similar or complementary projects; in fact, we > already do. I do a lot of exchange and coordination with Andrew here - who > serves as our "liaison" (I like this word, not sure why)—regarding the "ASF > tooling team" initiatives; there are many. > > * People who can be our advocates and "agents of change" in their PMCs - > even if agentic skills are completely new to them - but who deeply > understand what community over code is and how important human interactions > are in ASF PMCs, > > * People who contributed ideas and could be our "liaisons" with external > users—the Python core team and Bartosz, who is a triager (and a godfather > of the SKILLs approach for Magpie for example). I know he has other > priorities and many other commitments, so he won't be able to get involved > much. > > J. > > BTW/. Thanks a lot Calvin and Paul for helping with that. Your emails were > a fantastic statements of trust and usefulness regarding Magpie, showing > that we have a very clear mission and understanding of how it can help > within the ASF and outside. Thanks a lot for that (I will forward them to > the people who are not ASF members - nothing private in them. > > > Yeonguk Choo > Fri, May 22, 6:31 PM (3 days ago) > to me, Amogh, Andrew, Vincent, Buğra, Jean-Baptiste, André, Matt, Piotr, > Elad, [email protected], Justin, Paul, [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], Vincent, Shahar, > Ismaël, Zili, [email protected], Calvin, Rich, Mike, Craig > > Hello, Jarek > > If there are no issues, I’m generally fine with adding new people. > I’m not an ASF Member, so I may not fully understand the formal constraints > around forming an initial roster. > > I think it’s still early, but it’s interesting to see people gathering > around the problem itself rather than the code. That’s been a bit new for > me, but also quite exciting. This also reminded me of “Community over > Code.” 😀 > > Overall, I support moving forward with people who align with the current > direction. > At the same time, I think it would be useful to define some shared criteria > going forward to maintain consistency as the community grows. > > Best, > Yeonguk > > > 2026년 5월 23일 (토) 오전 12:51, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]>님이 작성: > > Craig Russell > Sun, May 24, 4:21 PM (15 hours ago) > to me, Amogh, Andrew, Vincent, Buğra, Jean-Baptiste, Yeonguk, André, Matt, > Piotr, Elad, [email protected], Justin, Paul, [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], Vincent, Shahar, > Ismaël, Zili, [email protected], Calvin, Rich, Mike > > The proposed action without a meeting will need a formal resolution to be > voted on. Based on comments made at the board meeting, I think there will > be some tweaks to the resolution. Adding new members to the PMC resolution > can be done during this editing process. > > The only thing I would be concerned about is only inviting Apache Members > for now, after consensus among this founding group that the proposed PMC > Member is worthy. A separate email with an appropriate subject is what is > needed now. > > After the PMC is established, the PMC itself should discuss adding new > members. I don't see a need to change the normal process of evaluating > contributors and voting them as committers and PMC members. > > Magpie can have a policy of having all committers voted as PMC member as > well, but the rules are that the PMC needs to vote. > > Craig > Craig L Russell > [email protected] > > > > Jean-Baptiste Onofré > May 24, 2026, 7:35 PM (12 hours ago) > to me, Amogh, Andrew, Vincent, Buğra, Jean-Baptiste, Yeonguk, André, Matt, > Piotr, Elad, [email protected], Justin, Paul, [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], Vincent, Shahar, > Ismaël, Zili, [email protected], Calvin, Rich, Mike, Craig > > Hi > > I don’t mind to update the roster now. We can always invite contributors as > committers and/or > PMC member later. > > I don’t think we should have pressure right now as the vote is approaching. > > Just my €0.01. > > Regards > JB >
