Hi everyone, I’m forwarding this from our private chat and included the history below so we keep everyone’s thoughts in one place.
I’m excited to share that three wonderful ASF members would like to join us: Richard Zowalla, who works on similar initiatives at Fraunhofer; Rémy Maucherat, a Tomcat PMC member exploring local LLMs; and Coty Sutherland, also from Tomcat and part of their security team. They are all fantastic "doers" who truly embody the spirit of our community criteria. Since the resolution timeline is tight, I’ll plan to add these three gentlemen to the roster unless anyone has concerns. I’ll also check in with Sander regarding the final timing. Looking forward to growing this together! Warmly, Jarek ------- Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> Fri, May 22, 5:50 PM (3 days ago) to Amogh, Andrew, Vincent, Buğra, Jean-Baptiste, Yeonguk, André, Matt, Piotr, Elad, [email protected], Justin, Paul, [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], Vincent, Shahar, Ismaël, Zili, [email protected], Calvin, Rich, Mike, Craig Hello here, I do not want to wait for the mailing list to be created (up to 24 hrs), so I start important question here. Following the (a bit promotional ;) Magpie campaign, I'm starting to get questions like, "Can I still join?" I will check for any formal constraints on adding new people to the roster before voting —specifically, whether action taken before the meeting must be strictly based on the submitted resolution, if we can still amend the resolution, and whether it will impact the timeline. But assuming we can still add people I have at least one new candidate who reached out: Richard Zowalla (https://github.com/apache/comdev/pull/2)—whom many of you know :).. So far I have the following criteria (but I think it's time we discuss "our" criteria - likely for the future): * People I know who focus on ASF ways and have proven experience in working with their PMCs on DevEx, Maintainership and generally "being on the ground" * People I personally know who are curious, learning agentic skills and starting to use them for their job, but who have also done a lot to spread the word, teach, and enthuse others * People who have already contributed to Magpie in various ways * People in the ASF who actively work (on the ground, not just at the decision-making level only) in other similar ASF initiatives. We actively want to cooperate with other similar or complementary projects; in fact, we already do. I do a lot of exchange and coordination with Andrew here - who serves as our "liaison" (I like this word, not sure why)—regarding the "ASF tooling team" initiatives; there are many. * People who can be our advocates and "agents of change" in their PMCs - even if agentic skills are completely new to them - but who deeply understand what community over code is and how important human interactions are in ASF PMCs, * People who contributed ideas and could be our "liaisons" with external users—the Python core team and Bartosz, who is a triager (and a godfather of the SKILLs approach for Magpie for example). I know he has other priorities and many other commitments, so he won't be able to get involved much. J. BTW/. Thanks a lot Calvin and Paul for helping with that. Your emails were a fantastic statements of trust and usefulness regarding Magpie, showing that we have a very clear mission and understanding of how it can help within the ASF and outside. Thanks a lot for that (I will forward them to the people who are not ASF members - nothing private in them. Yeonguk Choo Fri, May 22, 6:31 PM (3 days ago) to me, Amogh, Andrew, Vincent, Buğra, Jean-Baptiste, André, Matt, Piotr, Elad, [email protected], Justin, Paul, [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], Vincent, Shahar, Ismaël, Zili, [email protected], Calvin, Rich, Mike, Craig Hello, Jarek If there are no issues, I’m generally fine with adding new people. I’m not an ASF Member, so I may not fully understand the formal constraints around forming an initial roster. I think it’s still early, but it’s interesting to see people gathering around the problem itself rather than the code. That’s been a bit new for me, but also quite exciting. This also reminded me of “Community over Code.” 😀 Overall, I support moving forward with people who align with the current direction. At the same time, I think it would be useful to define some shared criteria going forward to maintain consistency as the community grows. Best, Yeonguk 2026년 5월 23일 (토) 오전 12:51, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]>님이 작성: Craig Russell Sun, May 24, 4:21 PM (15 hours ago) to me, Amogh, Andrew, Vincent, Buğra, Jean-Baptiste, Yeonguk, André, Matt, Piotr, Elad, [email protected], Justin, Paul, [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], Vincent, Shahar, Ismaël, Zili, [email protected], Calvin, Rich, Mike The proposed action without a meeting will need a formal resolution to be voted on. Based on comments made at the board meeting, I think there will be some tweaks to the resolution. Adding new members to the PMC resolution can be done during this editing process. The only thing I would be concerned about is only inviting Apache Members for now, after consensus among this founding group that the proposed PMC Member is worthy. A separate email with an appropriate subject is what is needed now. After the PMC is established, the PMC itself should discuss adding new members. I don't see a need to change the normal process of evaluating contributors and voting them as committers and PMC members. Magpie can have a policy of having all committers voted as PMC member as well, but the rules are that the PMC needs to vote. Craig Craig L Russell [email protected] Jean-Baptiste Onofré May 24, 2026, 7:35 PM (12 hours ago) to me, Amogh, Andrew, Vincent, Buğra, Jean-Baptiste, Yeonguk, André, Matt, Piotr, Elad, [email protected], Justin, Paul, [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], Vincent, Shahar, Ismaël, Zili, [email protected], Calvin, Rich, Mike, Craig Hi I don’t mind to update the roster now. We can always invite contributors as committers and/or PMC member later. I don’t think we should have pressure right now as the vote is approaching. Just my €0.01. Regards JB
